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Hello All,

 I would like to have a 15-20 Ft. tree, with a winch/crank system, where I can just crank it up, with lights already attached. Do any of you do it this way? Are there any good articles/tutorials on how to construct one? 

I truly appreciate all of your feedback!

Thank you!

-H3RRS

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Yes I Use 2 boat winch cranks from Harbor Freight. I use a 3G lighting mega tree kit I used last year, this year I added 2 additional colors and now with 3 strands of lights it would have been too heavy to hand pull up, so I added the winch cranks. Last year my buddy and I had all we wanted with one color so knew we would not be able to put up the three strands. Not sure what what 135 strands weigh but we are looking forward to hand cranking this year.

 

I think the hand crank winch's cost like $22 a piece, money well spent. I am using 2.

 

Keith

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11 hours ago, H3RRS said:

Hello All,

 I would like to have a 15-20 Ft. tree, with a winch/crank system, where I can just crank it up, with lights already attached. Do any of you do it this way? Are there any good articles/tutorials on how to construct one? 

I truly appreciate all of your feedback!

Thank you!

-H3RRS

I use a combination of parts from 3G and Christmas Light Show:

https://www.christmaslightshow.com/20-mega-tree-kit-for-outdoor-decorations-1.html

http://store.3glightingcreations.com/mega-tree-parts/

 

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On 10/17/2017 at 10:58 PM, Mega Arch said:

How many strings are on your mega tree and how many channels does it use? 

BTW: Love your arhces! I'm looking into LED arches, not pixels. What piping are you using?

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Mega tree is 69 strands and 69 ac channels. 16 super-strands of red, white and blue & green. 3 channels star. 2 strands for strobes. Didn't look quite full enough - so adding 16 more each color this year. 

Arches are 1"PVC schedule 40 wrapped with 8 strands pure white LED - 8 channels per. 

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I used the christmas lights show parts to make ours. 20' the first year, up to 25' this year. Might try 30. Always makes me nervous as heck, but it never shifts. 48 strands.

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On 10/17/2017 at 10:58 PM, Mega Arch said:

Did you make your candy cane circles? I don't know what you call them. They're very neat! If you can be so kind and explain how you build the stand and put them together! 

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2 hours ago, H3RRS said:

Did you make your candy cane circles? I don't know what you call them. They're very neat! If you can be so kind and explain how you build the stand and put them together! 

Thanks. Really easy build and many of us call them Candy Cane Spinners. Had pretty cool pics posted until Photobucket got full of themselves. Also easy to post pics through Tapatalk. But LOR's last upgrade jacked that option too. 

Mounted one end of an empty plastic electrical wire spool onto a Home Depot fence post. Zip tied 12 cheapo Walmart $1 candy canes to the spool. Uses 12 channels of an a/c LOR controller. Easy peasy. 

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On ‎10‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 12:56 PM, Kapkirk said:

Yes I Use 2 boat winch cranks from Harbor Freight. I use a 3G lighting mega tree kit I used last year, this year I added 2 additional colors and now with 3 strands of lights it would have been too heavy to hand pull up, so I added the winch cranks. Last year my buddy and I had all we wanted with one color so knew we would not be able to put up the three strands. Not sure what what 135 strands weigh but we are looking forward to hand cranking this year.

 

I think the hand crank winch's cost like $22 a piece, money well spent. I am using 2.

 

Keith

I pretty much did the same thing, only I use 1 winch, but 2 cables to pull it up.  51 superstrands of Red, Green , and White, making a total of 153 strands of lights.  I grouped 3 strands of each color together and mirrored it on the other side making 6 strands per channel, 8 channels per color.  Believe it or not it doesn't take much effort to crank it up.  You just have to make sure the Hook Head is going up straight and not angled or it digs into the pole. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5i2F72IyBY

I got the pole from a local metal shop.  It's 1-1/4" and 22' long, (3' in the ground, 19" above) http://www.metalmart.biz/

I got the Pulley Topper from Christmas Light Show  https://www.christmaslightshow.com/mega-tree-pulley-head.html?category_id=44

And the Hook Head from 3G  http://store.3glightingcreations.com/mega-tree-hook-head-threaded-24-peg/

I got the aviation cable (guy wires) and hardware from Lowes or Home Depot.  To anchor the guy wires to the ground I use tie out stakes https://www.lowes.com/pd/Covert-Tie-Out-Stake/999909353  We've had some pretty good winds and haven't had any problems.

 

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On 10/26/2017 at 7:14 PM, Little_b said:

I pretty much did the same thing, only I use 1 winch, but 2 cables to pull it up.  51 superstrands of Red, Green , and White, making a total of 153 strands of lights.  I grouped 3 strands of each color together and mirrored it on the other side making 6 strands per channel, 8 channels per color.  Believe it or not it doesn't take much effort to crank it up.  You just have to make sure the Hook Head is going up straight and not angled or it digs into the pole. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5i2F72IyBY

I got the pole from a local metal shop.  It's 1-1/4" and 22' long, (3' in the ground, 19" above) http://www.metalmart.biz/

I got the Pulley Topper from Christmas Light Show  https://www.christmaslightshow.com/mega-tree-pulley-head.html?category_id=44

And the Hook Head from 3G  http://store.3glightingcreations.com/mega-tree-hook-head-threaded-24-peg/

I got the aviation cable (guy wires) and hardware from Lowes or Home Depot.  To anchor the guy wires to the ground I use tie out stakes https://www.lowes.com/pd/Covert-Tie-Out-Stake/999909353  We've had some pretty good winds and haven't had any problems.

 

 My only issue at the moment is finding the correct pipe, and ensuring it's threaded. (To screw the pipe together and screw the pully head on top.) Can you lend me a hand and tell me exactly what pipe to get from Lowes or Home Depot ? Not the best when it comes this, my apologies. 

Kind Regards,

-H3RRS

 

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Hi All,

I just wanted to say thank you to all who contributed to this post, explaining how you build your mega tree. As I stated earlier, my first show will be the 2018 season, but I am trying to get all of my information together now. I am happy to say with all of your feedback, I have chosen a design for my mega tree.

I will be using 2 10' 1 1/4 threaded steel poles to make my 20' tree. I will then be using the pulley head, winch system, and hook head from ChristmasLightShow and using PVC piping for the base. 

Again, thank you very much for all of your help and assistance! 

Truly,

-H3RRS

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On 10/25/2017 at 7:47 PM, Mega Arch said:

Thanks. Really easy build and many of us call them Candy Cane Spinners. Had pretty cool pics posted until Photobucket got full of themselves. Also easy to post pics through Tapatalk. But LOR's last upgrade jacked that option too. 

Mounted one end of an empty plastic electrical wire spool onto a Home Depot fence post. Zip tied 12 cheapo Walmart $1 candy canes to the spool. Uses 12 channels of an a/c LOR controller. Easy peasy. 

not that easy, gave my wife and I quiet a workout getting them straight.

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11 hours ago, H3RRS said:

 My only issue at the moment is finding the correct pipe, and ensuring it's threaded. (To screw the pipe together and screw the pully head on top.) Can you lend me a hand and tell me exactly what pipe to get from Lowes or Home Depot ? Not the best when it comes this, my apologies. 

Kind Regards,

-H3RRS

 

I use 1-1/4 galvanized pipe and you want to buy a pole pin to connect them, tried using a coupler and screwing them together - too much wabble.

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We have a boat winch on ours, and it is VERY handy. However, since we do a spiral mega tree... It's a bit of a pain because we have to winch it up... spiral lights... winch it up... spiral lights... repeat. However, I do suggest getting a winch. It makes life a LOT easier.

 

As far as the center pole is concerned, we use a 2 inch black galvanized pipe from Lowes. The great thing about buying from them is they will cut it, and re-thread it in store for you! We then just use a coupling to keep the two segments together! Thankfully that's one of the only things we haven't had any issues with in the light show!

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1 hour ago, DisneyMatt10 said:

We have a boat winch on ours, and it is VERY handy. However, since we do a spiral mega tree... It's a bit of a pain because we have to winch it up... spiral lights... winch it up... spiral lights... repeat. However, I do suggest getting a winch. It makes life a LOT easier.

 

As far as the center pole is concerned, we use a 2 inch black galvanized pipe from Lowes. The great thing about buying from them is they will cut it, and re-thread it in store for you! We then just use a coupling to keep the two segments together! Thankfully that's one of the only things we haven't had any issues with in the light show!

I just bought 2 10' 1 1/4 sections of pipe and I will also be using a coupling to attach both of them. I will be using guy wire on top and in the middle. 

Thanks for your reply! 

-H3RRS

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5 minutes ago, H3RRS said:

I just bought 2 10' 1 1/4 sections of pipe and I will also be using a coupling to attach both of them. I will be using guy wire on top and in the middle. 

Thanks for your reply! 

-H3RRS

this is what I use and you don't need the midsection guide wire:
http://www.christmaslightshow.com/pole-pin-8-for-mega-tree.html?category_id=30

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I have two mega trees and use this on both, withstands 40mph winds.

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30 minutes ago, caniac said:

this is what I use and you don't need the midsection guide wire:
http://www.christmaslightshow.com/pole-pin-8-for-mega-tree.html?category_id=30

This looks great, and looks like it will withstand the winter weather I get here. How does the pin work? Is it a sleeve? Do I need to drill a hole in the pipe? All information will be truly appreciated! 

Thank you and Kind Regards, 

-H3RRS

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2 minutes ago, H3RRS said:

This looks great, and looks like it will withstand the winter weather I get here. How does the pin work? Is it a sleeve? Do I need to drill a hole in the pipe? All information will be truly appreciated! 

Thank you and Kind Regards, 

-H3RRS

I forget how long it is but it is solid steel and slides inside the pipe, has a one inch color that keeps it in place.  no need to drill holes, you slide it inside one pipe (if the inside of your pipe has a ridge you may need to drimmel it down) up to the collar and then slide the other section of pipe on the other end.  Been using it the last four years.

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2 minutes ago, caniac said:

I forget how long it is but it is solid steel and slides inside the pipe, has a one inch color that keeps it in place.  no need to drill holes, you slide it inside one pipe (if the inside of your pipe has a ridge you may need to drimmel it down) up to the collar and then slide the other section of pipe on the other end.  Been using it the last four years.

So, it slides inside one pipe and you slide the other right over it and it automatically locks into place? 

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2 minutes ago, H3RRS said:

So, it slides inside one pipe and you slide the other right over it and it automatically locks into place? 

doesn't lock in the typical sense but once it is in the two sections of pipe there is NO flex or wabble.  It's like having one solid section of 20ft galvanized pipe, they make a four leg base also that we use (the legs are three foot sections of galvanize pipe and we put sand tubes on those).  Last winter we had 75mph micro burst on Christmas day, it didn't budge.

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3 minutes ago, caniac said:

doesn't lock in the typical sense but once it is in the two sections of pipe there is NO flex or wabble.  It's like having one solid section of 20ft galvanized pipe, they make a four leg base also that we use (the legs are three foot sections of galvanize pipe and we put sand tubes on those).  Last winter we had 75mph micro burst on Christmas day, it didn't budge.

This sounds excellent. I saw the base, but they used PVC pipe for the legs. The pipe sounds like it will be much better.

Thank you so much! 

-H3RRS

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2 minutes ago, H3RRS said:

This sounds excellent. I saw the base, but they used PVC pipe for the legs. The pipe sounds like it will be much better.

Thank you so much! 

-H3RRS

I use galvanized pipe for the strength and weight.  Those folks are in TN and don't get much wind but you can use pretty much any section of pipe.

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