k6ccc Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, Septon said: It has two wires, the anode and cathode, which directly connect the 12V voltage if you want RGB , it have a remote controller So I take it that last part, a remote controller is bad? Yes. You may be able to hack it, but would not work directly. Just now, Septon said: Ok this was updated. With a control panel, a remote controller. You can directly through the remote control lamp My answer to that is "Say what?" That answer does not make sense... Maybe I don't speak Chinese well enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDucks Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 4 hours ago, Mr. P said: I wouldn't recommend that wire as it is 22awg wire. For the longer runs you want to go with a thicker wire, 18awg minimum as the issue with the longer runs is the voltage drop due to resistance in the wire. Thicker wire such as 18awg or better would mean less voltage drop over the longer span. Ditto. maybe for very 12V sort runs (forget it for 5Vruns over 3') 40', I would do 16Ga minimum for a 5M strip (~4A). bump it anothe ga (14) for longer or 2 strips. Dim lights will be the issue with small wire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, TheDucks said: Dim lights will be the issue with small wire. And color shifts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 That is the image they shared, I only see 2 wires. So must be a controller in there I guess... ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I suspect that is the single color version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Further down the page in the "Product Parameters" it states input power 100-240v. Lumens 900 Beam Angle 120 Power Consumption 10 W CE & RoHS Certified Yes Input Power 100-240V Size 115 x 86 x 72mm Wattage No Equivalent To 80 Watts Average Life in Hrs 100,000 work Voltage DC 12V Base To Power Outlet Dimmable (Option) No Bulb Type LED Colour cool white/warm white/RGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Mr. P said: Further down the page in the "Product Parameters" it states input power 100-240v. Lumens 900 Beam Angle 120 Power Consumption 10 W CE & RoHS Certified Yes Input Power 100-240V Size 115 x 86 x 72mm Wattage No Equivalent To 80 Watts Average Life in Hrs 100,000 work Voltage DC 12V Base To Power Outlet Dimmable (Option) No Bulb Type LED Colour cool white/warm white/RGB Umm greek to me. Does that mean we are good? (I think Jim was referring to that image as the single colour if that is what we are referring too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 For RGB , The appearance is the same, with a remote control Damn... so it has a remote and no other options. Damn. Think it would be hard to hack guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Septon said: Umm greek to me. Does that mean we are good? (I think Jim was referring to that image as the single colour if that is what we are referring too). To me that means that it is plugged in to a 100-240v source or power outlet and the internals convert it to 12vdc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Mr. P said: To me that means that it is plugged in to a 100-240v source or power outlet and the internals convert it to 12vdc. SHe said 2 wires, connect 12V With a remote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Run, don't walk away from this deal. The funny part is that the header at the top says it's 12 volts. Sounds like these dudes don't know what they are doing. Likely too much Copy and Paste between specs. Translation: No idea what you would actually be getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, k6ccc said: Run, don't walk away from this deal. The funny part is that the header at the top says it's 12 volts. Sounds like these dudes don't know what they are doing. Likely too much Copy and Paste between specs. Translation: No idea what you would actually be getting. +1, just keep it simple and find one that actually has the four wires coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, k6ccc said: Run, don't walk away from this deal. The funny part is that the header at the top says it's 12 volts. Sounds like these dudes don't know what they are doing. Likely too much Copy and Paste between specs. Translation: No idea what you would actually be getting. Ok I will try another again. If I can find those Lights for $10-15 I will do CMD24 if not, I will . If not, I will go with the CTB 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Wait, look at this again. IS that not power (small cable) and RBG other cables? I agree... they don't know what they are saying... but the imagine is specific (and different than what they shared) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Ah but that is a different one!! https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-35pcs-lot-RGB-DC-12-volt-led-flood-light-10w-best-price-rechargeable-led-floodlight/32690495933.html?spm=2114.12010108.1000013.10.7d847a7fJIzSc&traffic_analysisId=recommend_2088_5_82199_new&scm=1007.13339.82199.0&pvid=e13aa5ee-1b43-4e30-bb7a-0296dd6af38f&tpp=1 THoughts on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 22 minutes ago, Septon said: That is the image they shared, I only see 2 wires. So must be a controller in there I guess... ??? The two wires is for 120 power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Need to be looking for something like these with four wire cables: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/20W-RGB-LED-flood-light-DC24V-input-with-4-wire-PWM-driver-inside/701799_2037326943.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.WE0YRw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Septon said: That is a great point, his is a few feet. Mine may be 150' My longest run of cat 5 is 40 feet with no issues. Cat wire comes in different size wires too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Septon said: Well. I should ask, are these the right ones guys? https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2016-new-lowest-price-10pcs-dimmable-led-flood-light-outdoor-cool-white-IP65-900LM-RGB-10w/2204155_32689680035.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.5bdadf474QH7ob I'm confused on that one. It says cool white then says RGB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 23 minutes ago, k6ccc said: Run, don't walk away from this deal. The funny part is that the header at the top says it's 12 volts. Sounds like these dudes don't know what they are doing. Likely too much Copy and Paste between specs. Translation: No idea what you would actually be getting. I totally agree with Jim. They don't know what they are talking about. Those don't run on low volts with those two wires. There is a transformer inside that steps down power from high power to 12 volts. Then goes to a circuit board with resistors and caps for lower power for the IR remote control and LEDs. Run away fast!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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