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14 hours ago, jeff bush said:

Yes they are 2811 strips. Yes i used different strips per frame most of time as 1 strip would not complete 1 frame. 

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Do you know if all the strips were from the same batch? If you used more then one strip per window then you may have soldered a BRG to an RGB.

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Tried to manually swap Blue and green in the SE and it says mouse up error (channels cannot be moved within an RGB channel). Am i missing something?

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The strips came in 2 batches so that may be the case. Hoping i can just swap them in SE instead of getting more strips.  

 

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So i can manually swap the channels in the RGB channel setting screen. From red, universe 20 channel 46, green universe 20 channel 47 and green universe 20 channel 48 to-- red universe 20 channel 46, green universe 20 to channel 48 then blue universe 20 to channel 47. Does this change the actual color order, IE the eqivalant of swapping the colors??

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When you tested the strings in e-682 test did all the strings test ok. All red all green and all blue?

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The strip i talked about ealier that lights fine all red and then only 15 pixels work on B and G was not tested before installing. I only tested the frames on 4 test mode when i mounted the strips to the frames which was red with a chase and all were fine. Looking back i should have ran thru all 4 test modes. I have 4 frames that have one side or bottom section that if green instead of blue like the rest of the frame or vise versa, blue instead of green. I have changed all i can in the 682's as far as color order and am down to one section or other off color. 

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Sounds like the strips are the cause....if you are unable to seperate in sans now then changing in se is only option.

When I get a new strip I test to make sure I get the correct order...rgb, brg grb, etc.....then try to match them up to common channels on the sans.  If not possible then I change the order in SE.  When testing it is only necessary to test red, green and blue.  That is what makes up all the colors so a chase isn't needed.  But I always end my test with code 15.  It is a red green blue chase with 5 pixels off between.  It is just pretty....not really needed.

Pixels are three wires....someone up the list made a comment that blue and green were swapped.  This is possible with dumb rgb because there are 4 wires...one common and then one for each color.  With pixels you have voltage, ground and data wires.  Some older pixels added a clock.  But it is not possible to get blue and green in the wrong order since there is only a data line.

If you get your data and power lines mixed up or if water gets on the strip or if you bend a strip too hard you can cause dead pixels.  If you have a section that is not working check for connectivity.  Once a pixel dies, those behind it will not work.  So if you have one dead pixel, cut it out and replace.  I typically replace the whole strip and use the busted for spares or smaller elements.  Strips are $15 each from Ray.  I order plenty to keep on hand.

 

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Thanks Sax.

 

Was not able to move the RGB channel order in SE.. Throws up a error that the RGB channels can not be moved. 

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I've largely been away from the forum for a day or so and I see this thread has been active!  I'm with Sax on this one.  It sounds like the two batches of strips have different color order.  That is an unfortunate reality -  one of the reasons that it is recommended to purchase all the strips or strings for a prop (plus spares) at the same time.  To make it worse, it sounds like you have strings that have pieces of strip from the two different batches.  You are a bit screwed by that.  Other than re-sequencing the channels (can be a royal pain in the backsides), your best bet is to re-solder strips so that each string is made from strips with the same color order.  One of the things that may help make your life a little easier is to update the E682 controllers to the current beta firmware.  That will at least allow you to set the color order for each output from the controller.  The beta firmware is not yet posted on the SanDevices web page, but you can read all about it and download the firmware from this thread on the DIY forum:

http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?42646-SanDevices-version-5-firmware-information-thread

 

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Yep, regret that is what i am down to. I have gotten real close by changing the 682's color sequence but still have a few windows with issues. I will mess around with them a little more then if no success, take the matching colors from each to complete a prop and then get new strips to complete the others. I appreciate all those who posting to give me their knowledge the things to try. If i cant get it done now, i still have time for christmas or......just run all my sequences in white or red.....all props test perfect with those 2 colors ?  Price you pay i suppose. 

 

Thanks again gentlemen. 

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I don't know where you bought your strips from ,but I bought  20    2811 strips from Holiday Coro in the last few months at separate times and all strips always match. .

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16 minutes ago, jeff bush said:

All came from Holiday coro at 2 separate order times.  

That is odd, usually all of HC strips are BRG. I have had six different orders for strips from HC over the years and they have always been BRG.

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That is why i keep thinking i did something wrong but i can not see where i did. Most all the strips mounted on the frames were from 1 order and BRG is what always input into all my 682's. Love HC 

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OK...dont give up yet.  Still an easy Software fix.

It is too bad that they changed the moving RGB thing or maybe I had to do this new way and forgot.  But it is still possible....looks to take a little time so export/import will be crucial for you to correct this quickly.

OK, what you do is select your RGB channel that is bad.  Right Click and select Degroup.  At this point you can move the channels around...but dont.  Instead, just chose to make the channel an RGB group...then it asks what channels you want to be red, green and blue.  Make your changes there.  And that should solve it.

I did notice a line that said "how many channels below to do this to" where you can check it and select the number of channels.  You can try that after degrouping the equivalent number of RGB channels first...but personally I would do it one at a time.  I think I tried and it freaked out or something.  By Freak out I mean it didnt do the right order at all...But just save often and you can try anything....it wont hurt anything.

My responses will be delayed.  I am trying to get my show up and running.  But hopefully this helps you keep moving....

Sax 

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I have 2 different color orders from HC from 2 different orders over the years. I was able to re assign in the SAndevice with all new being on its own output. My case was simple........

Why don't you just reassign the channel order in SE for each bad pixel(s)? This may be what Sax is recommending, if it is then let me add to it:

> double click the "bad" rgb channel>then the 'RGB channel setting' dialog box pops up>UNcheck the box that says "automatically link channels">you can now switch the channel order, instead of 123(rgb) you make it 132(rbg).

Once that is all done, export that configuration. Then import that that to all your other LMS.

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yeah, there you go....thanks saxon...that is easier than going degroup then regroup as RGB.  Much quicker.  Once you get it complete export channel.  Then import that new template into your existing sequences and it will be fixed.

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Thanks. Will try this again and see. I changed 2 rgb channels on the bad door strip yesterday using the method above and ran a quick test it did not change the color of the 2 i had changed. Only did 2 rgb channels to test of the 63 that are opposite as i did not know if what i was trying would work. Will look at it again.  Thanks

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Update-- contacted HC and expained my issue with the strips. David is the man and took care of my situation. Thanks Holiday Coro and all the members who lent and thought to help me with my issue. I truly appreciate the help and hope each members show performs as you planned it. 

 

Thanks again, Jeff

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Glad you got it resolved!

So how was it corrected?

 

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As suggested- changed upper 682 to BRG from GRB and got about half to test the right color. Did the same to lower 682 to get the 6 porch post color correct. I was able to cut/patch and save 3 props that had matching color when tested and remounted to the frames. Will replace the strips completly on remaining 4 mis-colored props. As long as new strips match for HC, it should be fine. The 4 props are all on 1 cluster in the upper 682 so i can change the color order if neeeded. 

Should be up and running next week ?

Thanks 

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On 10/7/2016 at 0:42 PM, jeff bush said:

Received new strips, replaced and all colors test perfect on all frames ? 

Oh Happy day!

 

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