redsea300 Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 OK i am now starting to program and build props for this year. I have seen several threads in the past about RGB string. I am looking for a dumb version of the ccr's.Only want them to change colors as a string not each individual pixel. I know some of you were buying from aliexpress. Which ones do you recommend.Thanks in advance.Don C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wbottomley Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 redsea300 wrote:OK i am now starting to program and build props for this year. I have seen several threads in the past about RGB string. I am looking for a dumb version of the ccr's.Only want them to change colors as a string not each individual pixel. I know some of you were buying from aliexpress. Which ones do you recommend.Thanks in advance.Don C.Anyone that doesn't have an IC in them: http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/701799/209843764-306391674/335-SMD-Side-View-LED-Strip-with-90degree-Viewing-Angle-and-12V-DC-input-60leds-m.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Leonhardt Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I just received 4 5mm rolls of the dumb rgb lights, im trying to figure out the best way to wire them to the dc controller. I am thinking about phone wire and connectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spomalley Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) As far as wire options some people use CAT5 (practically telephone cable, others Ray's 4 core wire and a favourite of the aussies is 4 core core security cable Edited June 30, 2012 by spomalley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamS Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Phone wire might be too small for the current. A lot of us are using 4 core security wire, outdoor rated for UV. Im using 18/4 Security wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flogger7 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Where do you get your 18/4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdeditch Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 U used the Cat 5E cable and doubled up the lines, so from a 24 wire size to about a 12, and they work great. The security cable is very rigid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenL_MCSE Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I have used cat 5 cable with and without doubling (recommend doubling). I have used thermostat wire 18/4. I have used wiring from old light strings. But the best I have used is Ray's RGB cable; which is 18/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Leonhardt Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 And what type connectors are you using ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spomalley Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 A lot of people use these connectors from Ray Wu: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/50-pairs-4-Core-White-Waterproof-Line-15cm-long-each-male-and-female/701799_323485474.htmlIf you choose CAT5 a lot of people use the connections they come with although they reccomend spraying them with something like CorrosionX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckHutchings Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 U used the Cat 5E cable and doubled up the lines, so from a 24 wire size to about a 12, and they work great. The security cable is very rigid.You did NOT just say that doubling a 24-gauge wire results in a 12-gauge equivalent wire!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieHorning Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Should maybe look that up before the CAT5 becomes part of the lights, depending on how much current you're passing through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Plak Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I just check my chart and look it up, that doubling a 24-gauge wire results like it becomes a 22 gauge at leases max :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckHutchings Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 24 is ~.02"; 12 is ~.08". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Plak Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 U used the Cat 5E cable and doubled up the lines, so from a 24 wire size to about a 12, and they work great. The security cable is very rigid.I hope this was a Type-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamS Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I was able to find 18/4 stranded core security wire on Ebay.http://compare.ebay.com/like/180799181925?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-Paul Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 J & Chuck,Thank you gentlemen for commenting. I was going to, but I didn't want to come off as a bully. Frankly I could not believe that comment about using two wires would half the gage size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckHutchings Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 J & Chuck,Thank you gentlemen for commenting. I was going to, but I didn't want to come off as a bully. Frankly I could not believe that comment about using two wires would half the gage size.*Halve. halvedpast participle, past tense of halve (Verb) Verb: Divide into two parts of equal or roughly equal size: "peel and halve the pears".Reduce or be reduced by half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckHutchings Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I would normally correct your use of "gentlemen" to refer to Jerry and me but I'll overlook it this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnieHorning Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Rules of thumbWhen the diameter of a wire is doubled, the AWG will decrease by 6. (e.g., No. 2 AWG is about twice the diameter of No. 8 AWG.)When the cross-sectional area of a wire is doubled, the AWG will decrease by 3. (e.g., Two No. 14 AWG wires have about the same cross-sectional area as a single No. 11 AWG wire.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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