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Help, my mega tree died!

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Big rain storm last night killed my 23' mega tree. I guess that I should have added those middle guy wires after all.

Guess that blows today.

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A blue pill comes to mind :P.

Mid'level guying is good idea for a pole/conduit structure mega tree of that height.

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roknjohn wrote:

Big rain storm last night killed my 23' mega tree. I guess that I should have added those middle guy wires after all.

Guess that blows today.
I had middle guys wires on my tree last year...

still bent right above where they were attached...

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Ouch! I hope you can salvage some of the pieces and put it back together. You Might want to get a pole with a little more wall thickness.

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thevikester wrote:

Its a little sad...what is your center pole made from ??


Left over cardboard tubes from wrapping paper :D

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Ok, I wasn't able to work much today due to the weather, but I did manage to remove the bent pole. I took off the "firestick" sleeves (all still work fine) and the star (a little bent but easily fixed). I made up some additional guy wires and turn buckles for support midway up.

My pole was salvaged from old trampoline parts. They are/were 3.5' sections of 1-1/4 that slipped together that were used to hold safety netting. I used 7 sections, including the star topper. I used 1-1/2 Sch 80 PVC sleeves over the pole for the "firestick" effect.

I only had guy wires at the very top, which allowed the pole to sway in the middle. I was planning to add a middle set of guy wires but the heavy rain and wind killed it before I could.

The collapse resulted in two bent sections of pole. Luckily, I have a few extra sections to replace. I think it will be all right with the extra guys.

My main concern right now is the 128 strings of lights laying on the ground. I hope these aren't a nightmare to untangle. I have to go out of town for a couple of days. I'll try to rebuild it on Friday. So much for lights on this weekend. :(

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What did it look like lit up on the ground??? Sorry to see your tree after the storm.

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I think the fact that they poles slide together may be your issue. I would always recommend one solid piece of tubing/piping if possible. Mine, before my Z-Tree was made of the heavy duty that ridiculous heavy electrical conduit. It was painfully expensive per section but it was sturdy as could be!

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The blue lights looked like a waterfall or ice. Pretty cool. My wife said "I thought you weren't doing an arch?" SAB :(

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You're in Marion? Looks like I might have to make a trip out that way this year. I'm just down the road in Conway. I haven't posted much around here in the past couple years, but I've been an LOR user since 2004, and doing the music sync thing since 2006. Not doing a display this year since my mom is very ill, though.

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Ponddude wrote:

I think the fact that they poles slide together may be your issue. I would always recommend one solid piece of tubing/piping if possible.

I was very lucky that the previous owner's of our house threw the old well line out back in the woods when they replaced the well pump. I stumbled across a ~23ft section of heavy duty piping and instantly knew what I'd use it for. :D It's on it's fourth year now... second year with guying. :D

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For our 24' megatree I went with 2" steel pipe. Even with that, I have guys at about the 16' point, using 3/8" wire rope and turnbuckles. Paranoid? Sure, but I live in Kansas and we get 40 to 50 mph winds fairly often. I didn't want to ever have to take pictures of a fallen megatree. :D

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roknjohn wrote:

The blue lights looked like a waterfall or ice. Pretty cool. My wife said "I thought you weren't doing an arch?" SAB :)


LOL. Wives are very helpful sometimes......:?

SAB? smoking a blunt is what google comes up with. LOL

I have my guess, but won't say it here. :)

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Well.. I resurrected my mega tree with a new pole and middle guy wires. Freak storm this afternoon (60mph winds) knocked it down AGAIN! :X

I have a new plan though....

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roknjohn wrote:

Well.. I resurrected my mega tree with a new pole and middle guy wires. Freak storm this afternoon (60mph winds) knocked it down AGAIN! :X

I have a new plan though....
ROFLMAO.. Im sorry... but dang that is one funny thing to read when Donfl posted in another thread "don't take structural advise from Jim" then come in and read your tree fell down..... again...
This year I upgraded to 1" steel conduit, its holding up great..

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I don't know it this helps but piling on is always so much fun! :-)

I used 1 1/4" Galvanized steel pipe and mine is 20' guy wired at the top only with four wires. We had 45 mph winds the other day and it didn't even flex that I could see. I have a "pole piece" in-between the two poles. (made by CLS)

I also had to put the star on the top AFTER is was up so I put an extension ladder up against it and climbed up. got some flex in the middle but not too much. (Had someone paying attention to the guy wires just in case, but they reported no visible pulling issues).

Perhaps go to steel pipe instead of tubing? Just a thought..

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