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jpohio    0

That's the address I used, but I will try sending it again.

 

 

 

 

Ok, I sent it again, let me know if you got it???

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jpohio    0

Not sure why it is not reaching me. Try sending it to:     the_spiderwebman@yahoo.com

Ok I tried sending it, let me know if you get it??? 

 

If you didn't get it, I will try sending it from my gmail account.

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jerry72    98

Is there a way to change the beats from 20 to a lower number so you can get slower effects on a song like Silent Night?

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tflats99    0

Is there a way to change the beats from 20 to a lower number so you can get slower effects on a song like Silent Night?

Jerry, did you ever figure this out?

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jerry72    98

Jerry, did you ever figure this out? 

Actually i figured out that you dont need t change the beats, just change the timing map. I upped the length of events to 9 and dropped the sensitivity to 4. I also set the sensitivity as frequency instead of volume and vice versus to find which way worked better. I found that with a song like Silent night it was better to use Volume relative then Frequency Relative because that song has almost no beat to it.

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deh45678    1

First year with SS and I'm enjoying it on my non CCR sequencing. 

 

Let's see if I can explain my issue (more than likely user error)

 

However, I was playing with my new arches I've been testing (E1.31 to Pixlite controller to 5 (50 pixel each) 2 universes on a single string with power injection). I created 1 arch with 50 pixels in visualizer and used the unit ID 1 (not sure I need that for E1.31) and it works perfect in SS. But I'm not sure how I can create the others since each one needs to start with pixel 1. Ideas/corrections I need to make?   

 

Meant to move this post into the main SS section. Sorry.

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BrianBruderer    141

There is a topic that is pinned to the superstar forum about how to create dmx strings in the visualizer using the dmx keyword:

http://forums.lightorama.com/index.php?/topic/33483-superstar-dmx-keyword-for-use-in-visualizations/

 

In your case you can keep using the CCR arch wizard. The CCR arch wizard creates a prop fro each arch you create. Put the dmx keyword in the comment line of each arch prop. You can line up your arches in one row.

 

After saving the visualization;

launch superstar

click on the file menu and select "Import Visualization"

In the dialog box that appears, set the sequencing grid max length to something large such as 200. Also set "Horizontal"

Click on OK and you should see your arches in superstar and they should all be in one long sequencing row so it makes it easy to do a morph across all of your arches.

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deh45678    1

Thanks Brian!

 

I'll test this right away..

 

This should solve my issue with assigning the correct universe and pixel addresses to my controller. Huge help!

 

I had no issues with displaying my arches on the visualizer. That worked perfectly. Just wasn't sure how to assign the universe/pixels. Now I do.

 

Let you know how it goes. 

 

Thanks again!

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jerry72    98

Brian,

 

       How well do the sequences you have made convert to RGB strings? I must also ask if they cna be converted how will they do on a 16 string tree versus a 12 string tree? I really want to use the God Bless the USA medley in RGB mode next year. People love that song in my show this year bot my tree is only LED.

 

Jerry

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BrianBruderer    141

The "SuperStar" display is made from 12 CCRs. CCRs consist of 50 RGB pixels. Any other kind of RGB strings that have 50 pixels would work as well.

 

Without modification you could play a 12 string sequence to the middle 12 strings, but to use all 16 strings would require some modification. I have a utility that will stretch morphs and scenes, but it would require manually tweaking as well.

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jerry72    98

Brian, having a bit of trouble with the arches, i plan for 3 arches together using 2 50 count rgb strings across all three. In the arch wizard it asks how many segments and how many pixels. How can i go about dong this? just tell it one segment of 33 and the same for the next two? then have the first arch start with channel 1 pixel 1 then channel 1 pixel 34 then channel 1 pixel 67?

 

 

I figured it out, when i tried to save it i saved each one separately instead as one.

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jerry72    98

The "SuperStar" display is made from 12 CCRs. CCRs consist of 50 RGB pixels. Any other kind of RGB strings that have 50 pixels would work as well.

 

Without modification you could play a 12 string sequence to the middle 12 strings, but to use all 16 strings would require some modification. I have a utility that will stretch morphs and scenes, but it would require manually tweaking as well.

Ok, perfect. I plan to use the RGB strings from Holiday Coro.

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jerry72    98

One last question for the night, i know i saw a video you made that shows how to sequence several RGB props that SS some how remember s what it did on say the tree when yer trying to sequence regular lights? For when you dont have a high enough license, like say i have 4500 channels but only have a 3000 channel license? Cant remember what video that was.

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BrianBruderer    141

I'm not aware of a case where superstar "remembers" what you did when sequencing a tree in relation to sequencing other lights.

 

I think you are also asking how to sequence 4500 channels if you only have a 3000 channel license. You can get around it by sequencing your lights in two pieces. In other words, split your display into two visualizations and export each piece separately and the combine them into one sequence using copy/paste or using one as a subsequence. Its a bit of a pain but it can be done.

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jerry72    98

Brian, on a mega tree, how do i get the text to go horizontal across the tree? with the letters side by side not stacked?

 

Edit, never mind, just figured out that on the font i have to choose custom.

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jerry72    98

Not a question, more of a lesson i learned. last year i have very little time to get sequences made. So for this year i ma spending more time learning how to really use SS. For instance, tonight i learned not to sequence my whole show at once. For example, this year i ma going from 3 to 9 mini trees that use M5 lights. I ran the program two separate ways, one with the whole display and the other with different locations of the display at a time. For instance, i sequenced just the 9 mini trees, then i sequenced just the windows and roof line then i sequenced the columns and candy canes, using different zones i found that you will come up with a much better show. I used Music Box Dancer as my audio, The first sequence with the display as a whole was ok, but sequencing different zones then bringing them together in the editor made world of difference.  Seeing the mini trees act as their own display made the layout better.


Not a question, more of a lesson i learned. last year i have very little time to get sequences made. So for this year i ma spending more time learning how to really use SS. For instance, tonight i learned not to sequence my whole show at once. For example, this year i ma going from 3 to 9 mini trees that use M5 lights. I ran the program two separate ways, one with the whole display and the other with different locations of the display at a time. For instance, i sequenced just the 9 mini trees, then i sequenced just the windows and roof line then i sequenced the columns and candy canes, using different zones i found that you will come up with a much better show. I used Music Box Dancer as my audio, The first sequence with the display as a whole was ok, but sequencing different zones then bringing them together in the editor made world of difference.  Seeing the mini trees act as their own display made the layout better.

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jerry72    98

Brian,

   

       How do i convert a sequence that i can buy that was made for CCR to DMX for the mega tree?

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BrianBruderer    141

There are two ways to do it. One is to create the DMX strings in the sequence editor and then copy/paste the CCRs into the DMX strings. You need to do them one at a time and only copy the 50 pixels in the CCR, do not copy the macro channels.

 

The other way is to create a dmx visualization. I have attached one to this reply that is a dmx visualization of a 12 CCR tree.

 

1) copy the attached visualization to:

c:/ (your lightorama folder) / Visualizations / Editor

 

2) launch the visualizer. There are 12 Props in the visualization. Each prop has the dmx keyword in the comment line. There are some default values, but you can change the values after dmx= to match your display.

    You can use the visualizer to change the values, then save the visualization

 

3) launch superstar

 

4) open a sequence made for 12 CCRs with a star at the top

 

5) click on the File menu and select "Import Visualization" and import the attached visualization

 

6) click on the File menu and select "Export to Sequence Editor"

SuperStar_ControllersBottomLeft_dmx.lee

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jerry72    98

Ok, so i have a 16 string mega tree that i made following your instructions so all i have to do is just export it then copy paste. Got it.

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jerry72    98

Brian,

 

   Looking at maybe purchasing the AlphaPix 16 from Holiday Coro. Like the idea of having just one board to run my Mega Tree and My arches. On my arches i know i can just wire up the strings in line. But on the mega tree, I will have to run 2 strands from 2 of the connections. If i was to run string one up, then wire in string 2 at the top and run it down, what does this do to my sequence? The board supports Reverse DMX addressing, but not sure if this works with a SS sequence. Would it be best to just run a lead from the first string down to the bottom of the tree and connect up the second string?

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BrianBruderer    141

I'm not sure I follow exactly what you are saying, but the principle is that if you can make a visualization of it, then superstar will send the commands to the right pixels. In S4 the visualizer supports DMX pixels in the tree wizard. If you can make a visualization of it, superstar will map the pixels accordingly.

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