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Are you telling me that I need to wait untill April for a big sale at LOR?
I will say that I am not sure how BIG the sale will be but I do know that it will be the only sale this year.

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I guess what I am really asking is, do we know that it is definitely in April? If it is then I will wait until then because I am not going to need them before then.

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Maintenance,

The guy who posted right about you about the April sale is the owner of the company. I would say when he says the sale in April (the only sale of the year) it is pretty definite.

Jeff

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Maintenance,

The guy who posted right about you about the April sale is the owner of the company. I would say when he says the sale in April (the only sale of the year) it is pretty definite.

Jeff



Forgive me Dan, I am still trying to learn all I can before I jump in. I am already stressed about how to decorate, how many units to buy, colors etc..etc..etc. and Christmas is over a year away. I do not want to wait until the end of the year and find out that I am missing parts or parts of systems. I wished I had the knowledge of the veterans on here and I might not feel the same way, but I don't. when my 6 and 3 year old watched some of the videos they asked if we could decorate like that next year and I told them yes, I do not want to let them down and I think I am looking forward to it as much as they are though. They still watch the videos that I saved to the hard drive almost daily, so I do not think they will forget anytime soon.

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Forgive me Dan, I am still trying to learn all I can before I jump in. I am already stressed about how to decorate, how many units to buy, colors etc..etc..etc. and Christmas is over a year away. I do not want to wait until the end of the year and find out that I am missing parts or parts of systems. I wished I had the knowledge of the veterans on here and I might not feel the same way, but I don't. when my 6 and 3 year old watched some of the videos they asked if we could decorate like that next year and I told them yes, I do not want to let them down and I think I am looking forward to it as much as they are though. They still watch the videos that I saved to the hard drive almost daily, so I do not think they will forget anytime soon.


MM: In my opinion, here is how people should get started. I think it reduces the stress level involved.

1) NOW: Have a slight to even vauge idea what you want to do. Your plans will change. You will still need lights. Buy a lot of them. All that you can afford.
2) Buy your LOR boards in April. Buy all that you can. Don't think you overbought. You didn't. You will need them. Promise. (If not, you have a spare.)
3) Now that you know how many channels you have available, you can start planning your display. Do you have one now? Get an idea as to how many channels it would take to animate that. Grow from there.

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Forgive me Dan, I am still trying to learn all I can before I jump in. I am already stressed about how to decorate, how many units to buy, colors etc..etc..etc. and Christmas is over a year away. I do not want to wait until the end of the year and find out that I am missing parts or parts of systems. I wished I had the knowledge of the veterans on here and I might not feel the same way, but I don't. when my 6 and 3 year old watched some of the videos they asked if we could decorate like that next year and I told them yes, I do not want to let them down and I think I am looking forward to it as much as they are though. They still watch the videos that I saved to the hard drive almost daily, so I do not think they will forget anytime soon.


MM: In my opinion, here is how people should get started. I think it reduces the stress level involved.

1) NOW: Have a slight to even vauge idea what you want to do. Your plans will change. You will still need lights. Buy a lot of them. All that you can afford.
2) Buy your LOR boards in April. Buy all that you can. Don't think you overbought. You didn't. You will need them. Promise. (If not, you have a spare.)
3) Now that you know how many channels you have available, you can start planning your display. Do you have one now? Get an idea as to how many channels it would take to animate that. Grow from there.
Now that is what I am talking about, I need to know how many lights or strings of lights that can be controlled from on channel. when I have answers like these I think I can start planning.
Where do you guys find lights in the off season?

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Now that is what I am talking about, I need to know how many lights or strings of lights that can be controlled from on channel. when I have answers like these I think I can start planning.
Where do you guys find lights in the off season?


MM,

I too will be using LOR for the first time next year. I have actually been planning it for the last year now.

I have just been using the Power Chart here on PC to figure out how many lights. http://www.planetchristmas.com/FigurePower.htm .

Note thou that you have to limit yourself to 8 amps per channel and that you can only run a max of 20 at one time (so 3 channels max at 24 "too much") you can put alot off lights on one lor board but that is going to limit yourself to how much of it you can have on at one time. When I first thought of buying LOR I was thinking of buying like 8 or 16 channels. Well now I thinking more like 48-80.

After watching alot of the other peoples shows on here I just started counting them so see about how many channels they were using. Figure for everyone time you see a group of lights come on you have to have at least 1 channel. So if you plan on doing a Mega Tree or anything on that nature you better have atleast 16 and hopefully you would have more like 32 or 48.

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I was thinking 64 channels but I don't know now if that will be nearly enough:(

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MM....
This has been my first year and I have 32, which is quite a chunk to start off with !!!
Keep in mind you have to sequence all those channels...LOL!
IMHO if I had any more this year... it might have been too much for me to handle....
As it is.. I had a good time...got it done (very late because I started late) with the help of many people here on PC... and honestly I am not really utilizing all 32 channels the way they should and could be !!!
And it turned out great !!!
I may just stick with 32 for next year...(don't anyone hold me to that!!! :)) and refine WHAT I do with them....

Crawl, walk, then run


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Maintenance_Man,

You can start off small (even 16 channels!) and move up from there. Chuck Smith, the guy who owns PlanetChristmas, says "Crawl, Walk, Run". No need to buy 128 channels this year only to use much less. Build your display and everything that goes behind the display a little each year. By the way, if you disclosed where you live, you might find several local people that could help you before this year ends! Another good reason for letting us know where you live is several states have one day get-togethers called Mini PLUSs. You can learn a lot from others both on this board and in person. In the next two days, two other PC members from other parts of Texas will be stopping at my house. One hopefully will gain some knowledge from me, the other (Darryl Quinn) is an old dog and you know what they say about old dogs!

Jeff

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I will probably just do 32, but then again if I have the spare cash I may do 64.

I have read where people say, to do the big tree you need a minimum of 8-16 but 32 makes it real nice. If this is the case then that would leave me none for the house or the rest of the yard. I went to wally world with the wife the day after Christmas and stocked up on lights. But I think I will need more the way people are talking and knowing what I would like to do.

Maybe if someone with the experience saw a picture of my house then they could give me some advice of what to start off with being that they have the knowledge of what the boards are capable of.



I am in Independence, Kentucky for anyone that cares to know or if any one is close to me that may be able to offer some expertise

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Get lights while they are cheap!!

(I did 5 bushs, a real tree in the front yard, the roof outline in front, and a large wreath with 5000 lights total this year, along with 6 flood lights in red, green, and blue)

Solid color strands are what I went with 5 different colors (not including clear on my wreath) this year. This allows me to do complete color fades which are more dramatic on my small display.

I have that many again in solid colors that I did not use... and picked up 4200 multis and 1800 clear last night along with 1800 purple which are harder to find.

Also if you find extension cords on clearance pick up what you can afford.. it was told to me several times and it is true.... you can't have too many! LOL!

If you can post a picture of your house I am certain you can get some input and ideas!

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Sure, Check back in a little while and I will post it. Give me about 30 minutes or less.

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By the way...
If you can afford 64 channels...by all means go for it!:)

Just don't pressure yourself into thinking you have to use them all the first year!

It would not be a bad thing to have a backup unit or 2 on the shelf just in case something horrible happened. You would not have to be down any lenght of time!

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Hope this works I have been trying to get it down and still be able to view all of the house and most of the yard...

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You have lots of options!
The things that come to mind right off the bat would be floods up against the foundation shining up, nice roof area to maybe put large snowflakes or lights, you already mentioned a megatree (plenty of room for one!)
You are fortunate in that you have a nice clear canvas to work with...
You can do pretty much whatever you want!:waycool:

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I guess maybe my thought on how many channels to start off with could seem like a lot. I really was only trying to point out how channels can go fast. But with really good planning you can do a nice display with only 8 or 16 just like Steve S. has. I got to thinking about it am I am pretty use to using those Noma DLC for the last four years. Last year I was using 24 channels this year only 18 because one took a crap. So I guess a jump to 80 lor might not be as big of a jump for me as for someone totally starting from scratch. Although I will still have to get use all the little things with LOR sequencer.

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Maintenance,

If you are somewhat close to Louisville, there are Steve Singleton and Aaron Botts who both use LOR.

Jeff

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I am about 1 1/4 hours to 1 1/2 hours from Louisville...Maybe I can learn a few things from these guys.

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You have lots of options!
The things that come to mind right off the bat would be floods up against the foundation shining up, nice roof area to maybe put large snowflakes or lights, you already mentioned a megatree (plenty of room for one!)
You are fortunate in that you have a nice clear canvas to work with...
You can do pretty much whatever you want!:waycool:



I do not have the mind of an artist or a visionary...LOL

If I get the idea I will run with it though.

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Michael,
I will send you an email with pics. for some reason I cannot get the pics to download

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Jeff_Womack wrote:

Maintenance,

If you are somewhat close to Louisville, there are Steve Singleton and Aaron Botts who both use LOR.

Jeff
Jeff, I looked at the locations and it looks like there are members from 20 minutes down the road to 2 hours away.

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MM: I too am planning on my first delve into LOR next year. Historically, I just cover my bushes and landscaping trees in white static lights and trigger them with X10 commands at dusk and 11:00 PM. I've never counted, but I would guess there is somewhere between 3,000 - 5,000 lights on this static display.

My initial thought for next year is to break that static display into 3 or 4 channels, allowing me to create a wave pulse around the house. In addition, I will be running strands of each color on my 4 larger trees (there are two trees off each front corner of the house). Traditionally, I did not light these. I am going to use 4 channels for the left (Red, Green, White, Blue) and 4 channels for the right (Red, Green White, Blue). If you are keeping track, that is only 12 channels so far. The remaining 4 channels will be used for 4 large (3' wide) snowflakes I've bought. I will also be outlining my house in C9's which will probably be controlled by X10 commands or possibly 4 channels at the expense of my 'Stereo' color trees.

My idea is to use the 4 colors in a fadeup/down mode to reduce total amperage draw and make use of the left-right symmetry. I will rarely (if ever) have everything on.

This is still in the initial planning stages, but I've been thinking about it for a long time. Any wire frames will be run off x10 and utilize their own sequencers.

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Hey Maint Man welcome aboard, and feel free to ask questions I will help out as much as possible. I hope to be getting a video done in the next couple days so then maybe I can post part. I am letting the display rest during the week this week, and will fire her back up for the weekend. Helps to save a bit of money too. lol I am using 16 channels this year, hoping of MANY more, BUT you ccan do a great show with smaller amt, it just takes a bit of planning, and alot of triple taps.:)

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