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ItsMeBobO wrote:

Thanks for clarifying John! Read too much into your prior post. I noticed in the CCB flyer it said 60/160.
If an admin wants to edit out my misstatements that is ok with me.

On the fly software flipping! How cool is that!


The "60" is confusing. I meant that the 150 R, B & G channels would combine into 50 RGB channels and the 10 res/macro/color/reserved channels would stay separate. This would make one 50-bulb string 60 channels in the Sequence Editor.

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Jeff Millard wrote:

jimswinder wrote:
Guess I will have to make an "Extension Pigtail" so the controller is at one end.

Anyone know if this is even possible? Would the extra length be a problem?


I did it with CCRs, and it works flawlessly. The extension is 10' and it connects my 5th and 6th arches to the controller located between the 2nd and 3rd. That way I got all 3 controllers in one box.

Jeff

Hey Jeff...

Any idea if the CCB's will use the same setup?

I was thinking it would just be a three wire "extension cord"...

but knowing my simple mind, it is probably wanting to take a complex situation and make it simple...

and yes, my mind also works the opposite way and makes a simple situation more complex... :)

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Jeff Millard wrote:

Jim,

Take a look at the pictures of the wire I used in the CCR Cut thread. I cut that wire off an old heating blanket. I wish I had a roll of it. Ken Lovely told me it can be had from the same vendor (Ray Wu?) he got his RGB LEDs from. That wire is very close to the wire used on the CCBs. It's the same 4 wire design as the CCR. +12V and null, and the other two are for data. Take a look at the pixels for the 4 pads. Off to look for the wire on Ray Wu's website...

Jeff

Looks like a simple procedure (as opposed to you cutting your CCR in half!!! LOL)

I would imagine adding an "extension cord" would not void any warranty, would it?

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Jeff Millard wrote:

BTW, I found a 4 conductor #20 wire on Ray Wu's site. $67US shipped for 100meters... Too rich for my blood. Ya know, pinchin' pennies... LOL

Hmmmm....probably to do what I want to do I will need about 500'...

I guess I could use the 8 conductor wire I used last year (and spent a TON of money on), but they are all cut up into 10' and 15' sections with molex type connectors on them....

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Jeff Millard wrote:

This sounds like I need to get that 1000" roll out and do some testing... How far do you want the controller to be from the bulbs/load? I'll make an extension out of spare Molex's and give it a try this weekend...

Well...now that you mention "length".. I just realized a new problem!!!

Originally the 100 ct CCB's were going to be 8" Center for a total length of 66'...
just about what I needed...

but now the talk is of 6" centers or about 50'...that leaves me about 10' short of my current length of lights!!!

DAMN!!!

Anyway..I WAS going to need a 33' extension cord (the length of a string of lights)

I guess it does no good to plan a display on conjecture, huh?

And yes...when Dan first mentioned 8" centers for the CCB's I was one of the ones complaining about the spacing being to big...

Be careful what you wish for, huh??? :D

And welcome to the VERY Exclusive 3000 club...I nominate you as President...

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Jeff Millard wrote:

What was this thread about?

Jeff


It was about you my brother!:cool:
The questions for the original post were answered, so you can make it whatever you want. Oh wait!! You already did!:dude:

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Be careful what you wish for, huh??? :D

And welcome to the VERY Exclusive 3000 club...I nominate you as President...




Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a physicist

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Jeff Millard wrote:

PS 60' for test?

Well...originally I thought about 50'...but if the controller plugs into CCB "A", then what good would the extra length do (to CCB "B") as the controller could only be as far away from CCB "A" as the pigtail...

unless you made TWO different length extension cords for each set of 2 CCB's...

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Jeff Millard wrote:

Ya might wanna ask LORJohn what he thinks we're limited to. I know for a fact that 10' works just fine.

I think you just did...

thanks!!!

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Hey Jim,

If you are simply wanting the CCB to chase from one end to the power supply and then on to the end of the second string. As I understand from talking with Dan. The macros will be able to be configured to do that. Not from the power supply to the end on both 50 pixel strings. Might be better to ask Dan and or John if what you wish to do is possible with configuration as presented by LOR.

Just for the record. The wire in the CCB is similar to the lead in wire on the CCR. 4 cond. flat zip cord type.

Chuck

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The CCB uses a different controller IC than the CCR. The data rate to the bulbs is 1MHz. I was not able to run more than 5 or 6 feet to the first bulb before the data was garbled. An extension cord would have to be active, meaning it would need a retransmission buffer IC. We will limit the controller to first bulb to around three feet to guarranty that it works properly.

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Ron Amedee wrote:

They are trying to keep us on our toes !!!! Just when you think you got it understood....Here comes a bump in the road.....


Trust me I know. I had my new channel config almost finished then LORJohn explained the channel count on the CCB's.

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Wanted to see the stick people side by side.

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Thanks Bobo

I noticed the stick people stuff today myself... maybe we should have a southern light "EPIC" or something..You are invited !!!It would be fun to see you down south.

Gotta flag and everything for you. Come on down you are welcome !!!!

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cmoore60 wrote:

Hey Jim,

If you are simply wanting the CCB to chase from one end to the power supply and then on to the end of the second string. The macros will be able to be configured to do that.

No...my issue is that mt CCB's are/were going to be up in the air...from the top of my mini trees to the top of my Weber tree...which is 22' tall and on TOP of my two story house.

So the controllers will have to be in the middle of my 60' "Streamers" (see pic below) since it now appears, (according to LORJohn in his post below yours), that no extension cord over 5' will be usable.

**sigh**


Attached files 251475=13674-Christmas House.jpg

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LightORamaJohn wrote:

The CCB uses a different controller IC than the CCR. The data rate to the bulbs is 1MHz. I was not able to run more than 5 or 6 feet to the first bulb before the data was garbled. An extension cord would have to be active, meaning it would need a retransmission buffer IC. We will limit the controller to first bulb to around three feet to guarranty that it works properly.

John is this also the case when using the end to end option?
The CCR config lets you set end to end count and logically changes the pixel size. Extending the dc power only to the second 50 is not a problem is it?

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jimswinder wrote:


No...my issue is that mt CCB's are/were going to be up in the air...from the top of my mini trees to the top of my Weber tree...which is 22' tall and on TOP of my two story house.

So the controllers will have to be in the middle of my 60' "Streamers" (see pic below) since it now appears, (according to LORJohn in his post below yours), that no extension cord over 5' will be usable.

**sigh**


Hey Jim,

I bet the wind will love working it's magic on that layout!

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JBullard wrote:

Hey Jim,

I bet the wind will love working it's magic on that layout!


So far the last two years I have been lucky and no big winds...yet!!!

They usually come in October and right up to Thanksgiving...

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jimswinder wrote:

So far the last two years I have been lucky and no big winds...yet!!!

They usually come in October and right up to Thanksgiving...

Thats a nice layout Jim the only question is when are they going to start selling the CCBs Paul from CDI is having his summer sale right now so it would be nice if the CCBs went on sale so I know what I would have to buy. :D

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Don Gillespie wrote:

the only question is when are they going to start selling the CCBs Paul from CDI is having his summer sale right now so it would be nice if the CCBs went on sale so I know what I would have to buy. :D

I think it is pretty much a sure thing that the CCB's will go on sale for the LOR Summer sale (Mid July??)..

Not that I know or have any inside info...just what we have read in several different forum posts here...

I think the BIG question is when the S3/Superstar software will be available...

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jimswinder wrote:

Jeff Millard wrote:
This sounds like I need to get that 1000" roll out and do some testing... How far do you want the controller to be from the bulbs/load? I'll make an extension out of spare Molex's and give it a try this weekend...

Well...now that you mention "length".. I just realized a new problem!!!

Originally the 100 ct CCB's were going to be 8" Center for a total length of 66'...
just about what I needed...

but now the talk is of 6" centers or about 50'...that leaves me about 10' short of my current length of lights!!!





Yep...puts me in a bind also. Originally I was going to be 4 ft too long....now I'm going to be 12 ft short. Guess I'll have to cut off 12 ft off one side of the house.

MikeH

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jimswinder wrote:

cmoore60 wrote:
Hey Jim,

If you are simply wanting the CCB to chase from one end  to the power supply and then on to the end of the second string. The macros will be able to be configured to do that.

No...my issue is that mt CCB's are/were going to be up in the air...from the top of my mini trees to the top of my Weber tree...which is 22' tall and on TOP of my two story house.

So the controllers will have to be in the middle of my 60' "Streamers" (see pic below) since it now appears, (according to LORJohn in his post below yours), that no extension cord over 5' will be usable.

**sigh**

Hey Jim, That looks really nice!
It reminds me of two of my favorite things,
Barnum & Bailey circus,
and of course McDonalds in the front.
Brilliant!
:D

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rstately wrote:

It reminds me of two of my favorite things,
Barnum & Bailey circus,

Brilliant!
:D

well...I am sure some on here would say I am a "circus act"... :D

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