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Creating my firesticks and started with 2" PVC, seemed like a good idea until i put on my 70ct LED's and on a one foot section I will need two strands (don't want to go there). Next up I take 1 1/2 PVC and cut it to 11", seemed like a good idea but i am 4" short of LED's. Next up is a piece of 1" PVC cut to 12".

The strand is 24' in length.

Help? Advice?

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Are you looking for your lights to cover a certain length? like 12"?

Are you needing to use a specific diameter of PVC (1-1/2", 2", 1". 3'4")

Or are you needing to know how much length a 70ct LED string will cover?

the latter question depends on how tight you wrap it and of course the diameter..

I would take a fresh piece of pipe and BEFORE you cut it to length, wrap your lights a few different times and see what the AVERAGE length is that you come up with...

Also...if you take the circumference of the pipe, you can figure out (at least close) how much length the strand will give you...

2" PVC pipe schedule 40 has a nominal inside diameter of 2" and outside diameter of 2-3/8". (Circumference of 7.46128) So if I did the math correct, you can wrap it about 38 times...so if you wanted it to fit onto a 12" piece, each "wrap" would need to take up about 5/16" of an inch...

1.5" PVC pipe sch 40 has a nominal inside diameter of 1.5" and an outside diameter of 1-7/8". (Circumference of 5.89048)

1" PVC pipe schedule 40 has a nominal inside diameter of 1" and outside diameter of 1-1/4". (Circumference of 3.92699)

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jimswinder wrote:

Are you looking for your lights to cover a certain length? like 12"?

Are you needing to use a specific diameter of PVC (1-1/2", 2", 1". 3'4")

Or are you needing to know how much length a 70ct LED string will cover?

the latter question depends on how tight you wrap it and of course the diameter..

I would take a fresh piece of pipe and BEFORE you cut it to length, wrap your lights a few different times and see what the AVERAGE length is that you come up with...

Also...if you take the circumference of the pipe, you can figure out (at least close) how much length the strand will give you...

2" PVC pipe schedule 40 has a nominal inside diameter of 2" and outside diameter of 2-3/8". (Circumference of 7.46128) So if I did the math correct, you can wrap it about 38 times...so if you wanted it to fit onto a 12" piece, each "wrap" would need to take up about 5/16" of an inch...

1.5" PVC pipe sch 40 has a nominal inside diameter of 1.5" and an outside diameter of 1-7/8". (Circumference of 5.89048)

1" PVC pipe schedule 40 has a nominal inside diameter of 1" and outside diameter of 1-1/4". (Circumference of 3.92699)
I just finished testing the 1.5 and the 1 inch pipe. 1 inch looks the best and seems to have the most coverage. 11 inches seems to be the magic number for length. Am also using the patented "jimswinder" fold the strand in half so there is a two inch offset method (royalty check in mail). do you use 6, 7, or 8 sections per stick keeping in mind that I am a smurf?

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caniac wrote:

I just finished testing the 1.5 and the 1 inch pipe. 1 inch looks the best and seems to have the most coverage. 11 inches seems to be the magic number for length. Am also using the patented "jimswinder" fold the strand in half so there is a two inch offset method (royalty check in mail). do you use 6, 7, or 8 sections per stick keeping in mind that I am a smurf?

I don't have any firesticks...but I would imagine you would use the same "rule of thumb" as if doing an arch...and there in lies the "great debate"...even number or odd number of sections.

I myself, am an "odd" person (okay...let the comments fly!!!)

And as for you being a Smurf...the color of your skin has no bearing on the amount of sections you use... :P

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I am using 3/4" electrical pvc and get around 14" wrapped tight. I used c6 70 count led's and the pipe looks like its 2" pvc with the bulbs sticking out.

I have to slide it onto a 1/2" Galvanized pipe to keep it from bending with the weight of the cords, lights and starburst on top.

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What kind of lights are you using (mini's, c7, c9)? I have found that instead of using pvc pipe for the segments, I use pipe insulation. It's a 6 foot long foam tube available at HD or Lowe's or any hardware store. No need for zip ties. You can wrap it randomly so that it will not fall into a pattern and it won't slide. No need to wrap it tightly or closely. I use seven 17" segments on a 10' X 1" pvc schedule 40. The foam insulation bends with the pole if you're making arches. Up close and in the light it looks like there is a lot of spacing, but in the dark with the lights moving you can't tell there is space between the lights. Of course I use 100 ct. incan mini's, but I'm sure it will work with other type lights.

http://www.homedepot.com/Plumbing-Pipe-Insulation/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbuy9/R-100111613/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

I'll get some pics posted later with and without the lights on.

MikeH

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jimswinder wrote:

caniac wrote:
I just finished testing the 1.5 and the 1 inch pipe. 1 inch looks the best and seems to have the most coverage. 11 inches seems to be the magic number for length. Am also using the patented "jimswinder" fold the strand in half so there is a two inch offset method (royalty check in mail). do you use 6, 7, or 8 sections per stick keeping in mind that I am a smurf?

I don't have any firesticks...but I would imagine you would use the same "rule of thumb" as if doing an arch...and there in lies the "great debate"...even number or odd number of sections.

I myself, am an "odd" person (okay...let the comments fly!!!)

And as for you being a Smurf...the color of your skin has no bearing on the amount of sections you use... :P
Smurf does come into play with regards to me needing to rent a lift!! lol

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i am using 70ct m6 lights.

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Arnoldc wrote:

Probably a stupid question, what are firesticks?

I beleive they are the "vertical sticks" in this video:

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Pardon my ignorance, but what is a firestick? Anyone have a video example? I'd love to see one.

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jstorms wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a firestick? Anyone have a video example? I'd love to see one.
see jim's video link, basically a vertical stick with 6+ sections of lights.

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MikeH wrote:

It's really an arch on viagra.

So I guess at my age, I should consider myself lucky to even have an arch, huh?

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MikeH wrote:

It's really an arch on viagra.

MikeH

better call a doctor.it's been erect for more than four hours

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jimswinder wrote:

Arnoldc wrote:
Probably a stupid question, what are firesticks?

I beleive they are the "vertical sticks" in this video:



is this a members house,,,,,, very nice saw it before

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james campbell wrote:

jimswinder wrote:
Arnoldc wrote:
Probably a stupid question, what are firesticks?

I beleive they are the "vertical sticks" in this video:



is this a members house,,,,,, very nice saw it before

define "member".... :P

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jimswinder wrote:

I myself, am an "odd" person (okay...let the comments fly!!!)




You really didn't think you could get away with a coment like this and have no respponse did you. LOL :P:P:P

Some great answers here all depends on waht style lights you use and how you wrap them, as for hieght the sky is the limit (I guess you would need an awful lot of controllers for this) but any hieght is good some have different hieghts at 3 feet 4 feet 5 feet ect. ect experiment and have fun. :D

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jimswinder wrote:

james campbell wrote:
jimswinder wrote:
Arnoldc wrote:
Probably a stupid question, what are firesticks?

I beleive they are the "vertical sticks" in this video:



is this a members house,,,,,, very nice saw it before

define "member".... :P
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james campbell wrote:

jimswinder wrote:
Arnoldc wrote:
Probably a stupid question, what are firesticks?

I beleive they are the "vertical sticks" in this video:



is this a members house,,,,,, very nice saw it before
Yep, I think it is Cracker's

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You can also see fire sticks (I originally called them poles - but it appears that name wasn't glamorous enough) in most of my videos from 2008 to present. I also recommend, very strongly, an odd number of channels. My poles are 10 ft tall, 9 channels of 100 ct minis wrapped around 3/4" gray pvc, with a 10 ft piece of 1/2" rigid conduit inside.

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George Simmons wrote:

You can also see fire sticks (I originally called them poles - but it appears that name wasn't glamorous enough) in most of my videos from 2008 to present. I also recommend, very strongly, an odd number of channels. My poles are 10 ft tall, 9 channels of 100 ct minis wrapped around 3/4" gray pvc, with a 10 ft piece of 1/2" rigid conduit inside.

There he goes, braggin' about the size of his poles again.:shock:

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Cray Augsburg wrote:

George Simmons wrote:
You can also see fire sticks (I originally called them poles - but it appears that name wasn't glamorous enough) in most of my videos from 2008 to present. I also recommend, very strongly, an odd number of channels. My poles are 10 ft tall, 9 channels of 100 ct minis wrapped around 3/4" gray pvc, with a 10 ft piece of 1/2" rigid conduit inside.

There he goes, braggin' about the size of his poles again.:shock:


You never know, but I think he maybe over compensating...

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Arnoldc wrote:

Cray Augsburg wrote:
George Simmons wrote:
...1/2" rigid... .

There he goes, braggin' about the size of his poles again.:shock:


You never know, but I think he maybe over compensating...


Yep, he sure is.

MikeH

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