John (oldandslow) Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 This year, my second I mixed led and incandescent lights and notice that one of my controllers that have the led lights glow when off but the incandescents don't. I have 5 of the 30 amp models and this is the only one side that it glows the leds. Channels 1 to 8.The show works great and they twinkle and fade ok no problem.Any Ideas as to whats wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzaas Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Try doing a reset on the controller, that may correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Snubbers will correct the issue also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John (oldandslow) Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 What are snubbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John (oldandslow) Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 I looked on the hardware screen but didn't see anything about a reset button. Where do I find the reset button?Thanks for the help.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzaas Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 No reset button, what type of controller do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John (oldandslow) Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 1602 30 amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 John (oldandslow) wrote: What are snubbers?Do a search and you'll find a veritable plethora of threads...Here's my favorite. I made these and many LED problems like choppy fades and glowing in the dark went away.http://forums.planetchristmas.com/showthread.php/37562-Easiest-Terminators-Snubbers-to-make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzaas Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I believe on that model you unplug the power, set the both address dials to 0, apply power for 30 seconds, remove power, place address dials back to where you had them originally and reapply power. That should had reset the controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John (oldandslow) Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 Thank you. I will try that tomorrow during the day light.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory402 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 you need snubbers, a night light plugged in to end of the led strings will fix this. some folks use glade plugins to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-Paul Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Make sure that you have the hot to the hot input and the neutral to the neutral input of the card. Sure does sound like the wiring is reversed somewhere. If the wiring to the card is right. Then make sure that the outlet is wired correctly or any home made extension cord is properly wired.What you are describing sounds just like a problem I had in my first year display last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-klb- Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Max-Paul wrote:Make sure that you have the hot to the hot input and the neutral to the neutral input of the card. Sure does sound like the wiring is reversed somewhere. If the wiring to the card is right. Then make sure that the outlet is wired correctly or any home made extension cord is properly wired.What you are describing sounds just like a problem I had in my first year display last year.Especially when it is just channels 1-8 on one controller, you can start with the reset as a quick easy thing to try, but I'm betting that hot and neutral are swapped to the controller.. It could be inlet cord connections, extension cords, outlet, or even connections up stream in the house wiring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-klb- Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Darn you double post!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 George Simmons wrote: John (oldandslow) wrote: What are snubbers?Do a search and you'll find a veritable plethora of threads...Here's my favorite. I made these and many LED problems like choppy fades and glowing in the dark went away.http://forums.planetchristmas.com/showthread.php/37562-Easiest-Terminators-Snubbers-to-makethanks for this post..filing it away for reference, even though I've not had any LED snubber issues.For anyone wondering why it happens, the scope traces and discussion are good reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-Paul Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 DonFL wrote: George Simmons wrote: John (oldandslow) wrote: What are snubbers?Do a search and you'll find a veritable plethora of threads...Here's my favorite. I made these and many LED problems like choppy fades and glowing in the dark went away.http://forums.planetchristmas.com/showthread.php/37562-Easiest-Terminators-Snubbers-to-makethanks for this post..filing it away for reference, even though I've not had any LED snubber issues.For anyone wondering why it happens, the scope traces and discussion are good reading.Yes, the gent (forgive me, I have forgotten your name) who wrote up that post along with his pictures of his digital Oscope. Is great! Very informative and explains everything in great detail. That post should be tacked on one of the discussion topics like this one.What say you guys? Should we get Dan or one of the other mods to tack that post at the top? I say YES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John (oldandslow) Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 I reset the controller and I changed extension cords. I also took all the leds and made sure that they were all plugged in the same way. Channels 1,5,7,8 which have leds still glow, while 2,3,4,6 have incandescents and do not glow. 10,12.13.14.16 on the same controller have the same leds and do not glow.Is there a setting on the box that may be off? I have 3 other boxes that are fine running leds.Thanks to all for your supportJohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-Paul Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 John,do you have the left side and the right side on separate power cords? Do these plug into different outlets? Have you double checked how the power cords are terminated to the controller? Have you checked the wiring at the outlets? Are you sure that hot is going to the brass screw and neutral to the silver screw on the outlet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-klb- Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 And if they are on different outlets, have you tried swapping which outlet the cords are plugged into? See if the issue follows the channels, or follows the outlet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 And just for giggles, have you tried plugging in a set of incandescent mini lights or a glade air freshener into the end of one of the sets of LED's to see if that makes the glow in the dark go away?Note: you'll have to run a command through the controller after plugging something in before you can see if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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