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  1. I know this is OLD, but I have learned something very important that I want to pass on...I was re-configuring the system and needed to do some further digging into the hardware a little deeper... The RJ11 jacks are wired IN REVERSE with regard to the RJ45's I did some reverse engineering on the connections and here is what I found... RJ45 PIN 3 is connected to RJ11 PIN 5 - GROUND CONNECTION RJ45 PIN 4 is connected to RJ11 PIN 4 - RS485 Data RJ45 PIN 5 is connected to RJ11 PIN 3 - RS485 Data RJ45 PIN 6 is connected to RJ11 PIN 2 - SYSTEM POWER + Basically the circuit board is 'wired' this way. If an RJ45 is mounted in place of the RJ11, hooking this up essentially "shorts' the system Power + to ground and vice-versa. Also communications will fail because the RS485 data lines are swapped and will not understand the protocol because the '1's are interpreted as '0's and vice-versa. I also verified that one of my controllers (0B) had (3) RJ45 connectors mounted instead of (2) RJ45's and an RJ11. I've lined up the diagrams below to make it a bit more visual.
  2. Backups are probably my biggest concern when I'm programming. When I''m through with a session, all the files on the laptop are copied to my server and the server gets backed up every night. This includes everything that has been created or modified since the last backup (including the .SEQ files from SD cards). When I'm through with the project, everything gets archived to a USB Project drive and stored for safe-keeping. But with all the .SEQ files sitting there in folders, you can see why I asked the question about being able to read from the seq files...
  3. Has anyone thought or attempted to write a reverse compiler for the seq files? I know I have several test files and maintenance sequence files on SD cards and it would be handy to at least be able to get the original .LMS or .LAS filenames to go back to. The LMS files are a bit easier to deal with because you can simply play the associated .MP3 and know what you have. The .LAS files don't have that option available. Just a thought...
  4. I've done some searches, but evidently I'm asking the wrong questions. Currently running SE PRO version 4.3.14 on an HP laptop to do all my sequence programming. Usually I keep the laptop screen (primary display) reserved for just the visualizer display and my Win7 Pro folders view, and drag the main programming screen over to the extended desktop on a 22" LCD monitor (easier on these 'old' eyes). Everything works absolutely perfect and no issues at all. The issue I'm having is when I get to the site where my tree is located, I only have the laptop with me. The laptop recognizes that there is only one display and all my other programs (Excel, Word, etc.) recognize that there's only one display and displays the program on the laptop screen. Sequence Editor does not. I open the program and nothing comes up on the laptop screen and it's obviously looking for some input (the open file dialog), but it's located 'off-screen' and there is no way to find it because the laptop limits you to the available desktop only. In other words, sequence editor is displaying the dialog offscreen on a extended desktop that isn't there. I really can't believe I'm the only person experiencing this, but I can't seem to find a thread regarding this anomaly. I've tried updating display drivers and tweaking here and there, but nothing seems to get me back to where I need to be outside of 1) opening the editor with dual screens, 2) dragging everything back to the primary display, and 3) closing the program. THEN when I open the editor again without the large monitor attached, everything shows up fine "in the field". Any inklings at all on where I'm failing to check? I have a hard time believing LOR isn't checking and error trapping this somewhere in the software.
  5. Glad I could help...well, I didn't really, outside of the fact that it gave you a hit on your search terms!! Happy Programming!!
  6. Thanks for the replies!! Yeah, I missed it completely on page 15&16 of the manual...which is yet another reminder to RTFM. The top of the Director shows 'ctrL' to set LOR1602 parameters, so I missed the 'spcL' entry to get to the Day set. Time and day is all I needed. I can hit the mall anytime before this Thursday and swap the SD cards out. I won't have to abandon the wife in mid-Thanksgiving preparations, thus making my life more palatable... Yet another 'DOH!!' event in my life.... Thanks again everyone!!
  7. Thanks for the replies! Maybe I'm not explaining it correctly though... How does the MP3 Director know which day it is? I have (2) 10-sequence shows that alternate...e.g.; Show 1 plays at 5PM, 7PM, & 9PM currently. Show 2 plays at 6PM & 8PM. On Thursday ONLY, I need the MP3 Director to play Show 1 at 5PM, 7PM, 9PM, & 11PM and play Show 2 at 6PM, 8PM, 10PM, & 12PM. This part is easy. I can schedule the show times easily enough to run only on Thursday. I need to know how to set the MP3 Director so that it knows that it's Thursday. Setting the time is easy from the front panel or from the HWU panel. But does the MP3 Director know what the day of the week is when you set it?
  8. I've done forum searches and read the docs , but still couldn't find a definitive answer on this....or my pea-sized brain missed it somewhere. I've got (11) Gen3 LOR1602 controllers being driven by a LOR1602G3 MP3 director. The shows start at 4:30 with a background display only and then at 5, 6, 7, 8, & 9PM, 2 alternating 10-song shows play with a filler sequence until the following hour. At 10PM the tree turns itself off. Everything plays just fine and everyone is happy. The owners have now requested that on Thanksgiving day only (this coming Thursday), they want the shows to continue past the 9PM show until 1AM on Friday morning. My question is...will the MP3 Show Director pay attention to the HWU generated Show schedule for Day of week? Will executing the "Set to PC's Time" command also set the proper day of the week so it will execute on Thursday's schedule only? The reason I ask is the only other way I can see this happening is to create another SD card with the programming for Thursday only, driving up to the mall (where the tree installation is), climbing inside the tree and swapping out the cards on Thursday morning, and then repeating the procedure on Friday morning.
  9. Well, that's what I would have thought too, but I re-verified this morning, that I could plug my RJ45 connector into the RJ11 connector on this 1602 box. Now, because all of my other boxes were already sealed up (and I had a short turnaround time this AM), I didn't verify that this was an isolated occurrence or if it is how the boxes are assembled normally. I do plan on finding out though. The really good news is that the controller still works. I verified that I wasn't seeing any 'magic smoke' and, although I could still smell some of the lingering fragrance of a possible electrical char, the controller logged up and tested fine by itself and with the other 11 boxes. After this holiday season though, they're all getting pulled and very visually inspected before putting them away for next year. Do you know offhand if there are schematic available for the boards? I wouldn't expect to get any proprietary information about firmware or microprocessor programming, but the general I/O layout and output schemes would be a big plus for us techs out here (I've been doing component-level repair on pro audio equipment for almost 40 years now).
  10. Okay, I've searched the forums and can't seem to find a definitive answer to this, so I'm hoping someone might know. I have 11 LOR1602W controllers driven by a LOR1602WG3-MP3 inside a tree with 185 circuits on it. I was moving some wiring around and accidentally plugged the Cat 5 coming from controller 0b into the RJ11 jack (BTW, whose brilliant idea was it to put a RJ11 "interface" there with an RJ45 jack?!? RJ11's are, by their physical nature, a 6-pin connector and not nearly as wide as a '45). Both were then turned on. When controller 0c was reading 'no conn', I went to inspect and found the error of my ways and shut them off. However, I smelled something that approximated a very hot resistor or other component in the controller. I shut it off immediately and haven't touched it, deciding it would be better to leave it off and find out if I fried something. What say you? Is this a possibility that it is fried? Please let me know ASAP, as I have this tree to light this coming Saturday and I will need to FedEx in another controller if this one is shot. Thanks for any and all replies!!
  11. Watch all the videos on the site re: Sequence Editor. There you will find a lot of good information about how to get around in SE. I didn't think there would be much in there for me, but I picked up a lot of little tricks that came back to roost when I actually started sitting down to do some programming. It's just my opinion, but I started my journey about 3 1/2 months ago and I just made my deadline earlier this month. You're really starting into this a little late.
  12. HitTheLights, watch all the videos… They are invaluable! Take a day and just sit there and watch them. You will find all kinds of information and as they're going through their explanations, you'll start thinking about all the different things that you need to do and it will all fall together! I honestly didn't think that I would have much to learn from them, but I did! These are made by people that do this stuff all the time; they will give you an education!
  13. I've been using them just to keep my pea brain from forgetting to reset my channel order.... I'm lighting a tree, so my tracks would probably be a bit different from the landscape type of setup. Basically, the tree is set up with 'rungs' of lights; e.g., rung 1 (on the bottom) has 16 circuits of red, 16 circuits of green, and 16 circuits of white LED strings. The 2nd rung is only 16 circuits of white LED's. 3rd & 5th rung is 12 ckts of red, green, & white. 4th rung is 12 ckts of white, etc. (the total tree is 40' high and 24' dia. at the base, and has 185 circuits). My base track is just channel order, starting with controller 01, ch 1 through controller 0A, ch 9. Track 2 is my rung order. I grouped the channels together on a rung (click on the channel and simply drag it to where you'd like it to be in relation to the other channels) so I could access the channels easily in a group (like when I would like to 'chase' all the red LED's on a rung from left to right). The 3rd track is by color order, so all the white LED's are together, all the red LED's are together, etc. Then I have one track that just deals with the channels for the (5) 3-color "star ornaments" on the tree so I can concentrate on just those channels. Tracks are just an organizational tool for me. Not sure if I'm using them 'correctly', but this is the way I do use them. Think of it as a filing cabinet where you have a different drawers of file folders and each drawer has the same information as the others, but the information is sorted differently so you can find the information easily no matter how you want to search for it. What I did when I started was to take a new blank sequence and just 'played with it' and all the tool tabs to see what everything did. Once you're somewhat comfortable with how to use the editor, then grab a sequence from someone, make a copy of it (you REALLY want to make a copy, just in case), and play around with it a bit, changing little things and seeing how this all fits together. Hopefully this didn't confuse you. I'm fairly new to this myself, but it was easy once I started doing it this way and it kept me sane during my 10 hour programming bouts... YMMV and good luck! But be careful; this stuff IS addictive!
  14. Both of these are available through the sequence store. These are most probably a lot more then 16 channels, but you can pick and choose which channels you wish to use by running the sequence and seeing where it would fit into your landscaping scheme. http://sequences.lightorama.com/Let-It-Go-Idina-Menzel_p_1130.html http://sequences.lightorama.com/A-Holly-Jolly-Christmas-by-Burl-Ives_p_1036.html You might also think about reviewing this link about the 4x4 decorating to give you some ideas on how to use what you have. http://www1.lightorama.com/4-x-4-decorating/
  15. When I copied some of the sequences from a another sequence I purchased, I used my own "base template" that had all my channels mapped out (converting from a 'landscape' to a 'tree' sequence) and a freeform grid with no timings on it. The first thing I did was to copy the timings from the original to the freeform grid (right-click on original channels and Select Row, then right click on new sequence freeform channel and Paste Timing At...0.00 and click okay). That will copy the original timings no matter what they are. Then any copying and pasting you do should match either way. But Pasting by time is always preferable if you're using the exact same song. If you're not, you'll have to roll your own. A BIG help for me was watching ALL the videos first. My first inclination was to watch them when I needed them because I was soooo stoked about getting into the sequencing process. Once I found a lot of the little 'twists' in the videos and then tried them on a scratch sequence, it made the rest of my project go so much smoother...and faster!
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