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  1. Go ahead - talk all you want. But do it elsewhere. I ordered a couple of RGB floods this afternoon, and 34 minutes after I received an email confirming the order I received another email telling me that the product has shipped. Now some people might say that's an awfully long time to wait. But heck - at my age, I've waited longer than that for a bowel movement. When a company can get their business finished, including the paperwork, quicker than I can at home, well, let's just say my hat's off to them.
  2. Guest

    KISS Method

    You saw an amazing video on the internet where someone's home was synchronized to the lights. Is it cool or what? Now... you want to do the same thing. If you haven't already started hanging lights, sequencing, etc, you're pretty much hosed this year. That's right, this is not a plug and play option. Those are sold at your local home improvement store. But, if you want to expand beyond the capability of that unit, you've found the right place. First, research these forums by using a Google search or browse many topics in each of the forums. There's plenty of information to read here and your answer will be posted 99.9% of the time. Second, know what you're buying. If you didn't do the first thing, then you won't know what you're buying. Third, asking for help will get a polite answer easier than begging or demanding one. They're users that's been with LOR since day one. They know the equipment inside and out. Fourth, it's about having fun. If you take a sequence from a person that's offering them up for free. A kind gesture goes a long ways. Finally, the KISS method. Keep it simple stupid. The AC controllers in a weather proof enclosure really don't need to be inside a building, garage, or home. It's much easier to place the unit next to the lights without running a million extension cords hundreds of feet long. Plus, it's better to purchase everything after the season where huge discounts are offered. Keeping these things in mind will yield a cool display and a knowledgeable decorator.
  3. We've done a donation box every year. As far as using the funds to cover the costs of the display, I think that's the tackiest, most selfish and most disgraceful thing I've heard in a long time. If a person can't afford to do a display, then DON'T! We actively mention the donation box during most announcements and every penny donated goes to our local food shelf. Those who want to donate do, and those who don't want to donate don't. I've yet to hear any complaints about the donation box, but we've heard tons of praise. And quite frankly, if someone wants to drive away in a huff because they're offended, I say thanks for clearing that spot in the street for those waiting in line who WANT to be there. I'm unsure what "ramifications" or "proof" or what "paperwork and etc" dgrant refers to. Maybe things are different in the Ozarks than in Minnesota. We simply empty the box each night, count the proceeds - for nothing more than our own satisfaction - and then hand over the stash to the head of our local foodshelf every few days. I'm not sure how it could be any more simple. Note: We do buy, for the face value, any grocery gift cards that get donated because the food shelf can leverage 20 bucks much, much farther than they can a $20 dollar gift card. And I always buy the dollar coins people deposit because I like dollar coins.
  4. You could always try voodoo. I often sacrifice a chicken while chanting to the electrical gods. (Eating a bucket of KFC while yelling work dammit)
  5. This is pretty much how I start doing every song. Gives me lots of timing options very quickly (about 10 minutes). I still have to take some time to make sure things are perfect, but it gives me a huge head start. This video shows how to: Look at what is inside a bare bones LMS fileTake advantage of advanced timing wizards in AudacityHow to manually convert Audacity timing grids (labels) and import them into Light-O-Rama timing gridsHow to automatically convert Audacity labels to LOR timing grids using a crude PERL script, that I don't support.How to use the Beat Wizard and the Tapper Wizard.Ends with a brief code walkthrough on the script.Links: Audacity Download:http://audacity.sourceforge.net/Queen Mary Vamp plugins for Audacity: http://www.nutcracker123.com/nutcracker/releases/Vamp_Plugin.exeLink to Audacity to LOR Script: (I provide no support for this): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B95M-4jUDX5aSVVGMEJoQmpiUGM/viewActiveState PERL: http://www.activestate.com/activeperl
  6. The only INCORRECT way of unplugging cat5 that I know of is tripping over the cable...
  7. paralegalnc

    This is why

    last night two little children came to my door dressed in Christmas pjs. The family (a dad and 4 kids) has a tradition where they go out and look at lights. When they find one they really like they give them a reward. They gave me a little paper trophy. I was moved to tears. I didn't even get their names. I wish they had written it on it. This is the most precious thing. I am going to frame it. I was speechless...and well, that doesn't happen often. So despite all the problems we have had this year... and we've had a bunch.... the frustration, the work... the little paper trophy is worth more than anything and makes it worth it. This year's show was very special to me and it's really nice to know that others like it.
  8. I would quit worrying about other people's display and worry about your own.
  9. Tom- Thanks for the compliment. Trust me I understand your pov. As far as outline sequences other than James there may be less than 5 members I have asked for a sequence and I know each of them from memory. James sequences compliments my props and my singing faces. I also have either met in person, skype or over the phone each of them, well except for 75Redman who recently shared a work of art with me. I still haven't worked it into my show yet, I think it was a patriotic sequence so it will get there. IMO this is just a fun hobby, that's why I do what I do. If I wanted to get paid, and I have had offers, that would take the fun away. I like helping people either singing faces or setting up their pixies etc. and when my local publisher asked me why I do what I do for the holidays my comment was and will always be the same "because I can and there are others who simply cant for various reasons" and I left it at that. Its the same way in the forums. Happy Lighting and Merry Christmas everyone. JR
  10. Here's one I use. Lots of people like it. I use it for checking all the lights across both yards. (Sorry - I can't find any more recent video.)
  11. Guys in ways, it is comments like this that drive Dan crazy. Look at this forum. Threads have a tendency to get out of hand and off subject very quickly. No matter what Dan says, someone on the forum will be willing to dissect it and interpret it anyway they want to. He is damned if he does/doesn't. In the past Dan has been crucified for making statements. I understand why he is gun shy. I too agree, LOR needs to ride the tide and make changes. However, if you are not in the software industry you have little understanding of the complexities. While I am frustrated with their software advances, LOR has attempted to keep it's current users compatible through the years. Backward compatibility is key to preserving a user base. Sure they could completely re-write a different tool and charge you for it. Then there would be squawking about how "they abandonded us". A company attempting to blend the best of, user data IP preservation, and advances in innovation, is a difficult and lengthy balancing act. Nutcracker (and I am not picking on Sean) has no legacy to worry about. Even Madrix had problems from M2 to M3 compatibility. What I am trying to say is, cut LOR a break. They keep quiet because it is the least of 2 evils. Give Dan a chance like Tim stated, to generate a proper response. Safe to say, Dan is very keen on the currents of their customer base. Sorry, I will get off my soapbox now
  12. Last year the LOR forum members chipped in and awarded a free controller to one lucky newbie family and accessories to another. Read that thread here http://forums.lighto...er-kind-of-ccf/ Lets continue this gift for another year and help make some memories for a newbie family. This is only for first year animated show newbie families with kids to get them started please. Newbie families please feel free to apply for the scholarship by making a post here of why you need a controller or lights from LOR! A Funny story is good and sappy is even better! Pictures of your kids are encouraged. The application period will end on Sunday August 12, 2012. Advance apologies to those who come upon this late and miss it. The plan is to award the controller by the end of August. Determining who is awarded the scholarship(s) will be up to the admin (Bob-O) and the donors but we will listen to advice. A full accounting of all funds will be provided to any donors. I have started it off with $40. Anyone who would like to chip in $10 or whatever please paypal me itsmebobo at yahoo dot com. No public posts will be made by me about who has donated but you may post about your own contribution if you wish. Records will be kept to assure the concerned this is not scam. If for some reason the scholarship is not awarded, all donations will be returned.
  13. I know its not perfect but if you want it it is free... just send me a e mail and I will share it with whoever wants to see it. It is better viewed on full screen as the video is a little small because it is of my Vis file. retired_old_sarge@yahoo.com
  14. Captured about 40% of my takedown and put away with some time lapse photography. 85k lights, LOR, RGB all down and tucked away.
  15. Got me thinking do I need a pair of gloves MMmmmmmm
  16. Dcroc

    OLD SARGE

    Yup....Sarge is a stand up guy.
  17. Oh man. Agree with the others. You must know the number, large or small. But if you have the CLAP (like I do), don't forget to add in the various LED on lights. Like the (2) on my speakers for example.
  18. Some may have read my complaining over the problems I've had getting things running right this year. Then, a few minutes ago I get this email, and it kind of snaps my head back on straight. Dear George, THANK YOU again for the awesome light and music display!!! I visited with you briefly on Friday evening when there was a little trouble with some of the lights. You said to come back. You said you’d be working on the lights on Saturday and try to get them all working. (What was working on Friday was still awesome!) I told you how I wait for this and anticipate it already starting in July. I said we’d be back on Sunday evening with more family / friends. Well, this evening we came back! I was in the back of the van when my friend went out to put our donation in the box, and she got to talk to you. There were seven of us that came out from St. Cloud / Sartell to enjoy the lights and music. If you total our ages we have over 480 years — and yet we still felt like little children as we oooh-ed and aaah-ed over all the colorful lights and how they went with notes at the split of a second. It is truly AWESOME! Thank you, George!!! Sue
  19. I think the easiest way is to stand straight up and point the camera down... +1 on Windows Movie Maker. So simple even a Texan can do it... Angleton, eh... home of the Brazoria County Fair. I carry fond memories...
  20. We have had a sleigh and several reindeer made from plywood for several years now, bought them at a garage sale so no idea how old they really are. The sleigh hasn't weathered very well so I needed to make a new one. I also wanted to make it easy to take apart and put together so we can store it indoors. The old one was all screwed together. We started with a sheet of exterior grade plywood and one of the old sleigh sides as a pattern. Which became a couple of these: And then this: I think the inspector approves First coat of primer on everything, a couple coats of white paint to come:
  21. Nut Rocker by TSO. The link is a video of the sequence. 96ch. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=721370741207637&set=vb.448590921818955&type=3&theater
  22. Many of us know Jerry72 here on the forums. On 15 Sept he was involved in a head on collision the results being from the other driver who was drunk and has been arrested. Though I didn't set up the GoFundMe account it was sent to me and I asked LOR Admins for their permission to post it here. (granted) I wont get into his family but a little background is posted on the GoFundMe account and it is heartbreaking at best. For anyone that reads this that received face sequences from me and offered to donate to me, this would be perfect. I and many others here consider Jerry a friend. https://www.gofundme.com/jerry-thompsons-medical-and-family I am sure any contributions will be greatly appreciated. JR [Admin edit to correct date, as mentioned in future post.]
  23. I had nine kids cry and was told off by one parent, overall a successful Halloween. 😁
  24. We let our extension cords grow wild. You all would be horrified if you saw them. Green cords, white cords, orange cords, red/white cords. All running willy-nilly all over the yard like a web built by a spider doing coke. The only cords we have labeled are the ones that are directly connected from a prop to the controller.
  25. There is nothing to troubleshoot as that is what the lights are supposed to do. When you turn on red they become red then you turn them off. If you turn on blue without turning off red then the colors will mix, this is how you get all the other colors with RGB. If you turn on red you will get red, when you turn on green the colors mix and you get yellow, when you turn on blue all colors mix and you get white.
  26. With all the help that I've received the past few years, I thought I would give something back. This is a sequence I did last year. 96 regular channels, 8 RGB floods, and 4 RGB arches. Sequence https://www.dropbox.com/s/s74i29ans4i1t1r/MashUp30Songs%202014.lms?dl=0 Link for the audio.http://www.mediafire.com/download/7uvdb3mo7s6ws4w/30%2B+Hit+Songs+from+2007-2014.mp3
  27. I found a solution to a problem and I wanted to share my solution. The problem is that my front porch light is very visible from the street. Over the years I keep turning the intensity down (it's on a LOR channel), and it's still too bright. The solution is that I installed a piece of cardboard in the light fixture so that the light is completely blocked towards the street and unblocked towards the house. Now I can leave the porch light on at a useful intensity and not have it shine brightly towards the street. The photo below does not really do it justice, but you will notice that you don't see any direct light from the porch light, but you can see the shadow from the wreath on the front door being cast on the wall. Took about 10 seconds to install the cardboard, and will take about that long to remove it after the season is concluded.
  28. I'm not sure I can answer that as all I've ever had has been the advanced (now Pro) license level. All one needs to do is create the effect you want in the first cell of your chase, then select the number of channels and the length of time you want the chase to occupy and then push the H key. It actually takes less time to do than it took to write the description. Self-serving note: Sequence U teaches all this and more. Classes begin next Sunday.
  29. Oh and 2 high speed USB 485's and mega tree kit with topper lol I wasn't that lucky but almost ! $ 200.00 the 5 controllers are the commercial grade ones i thought it was a great deal !
  30. Has anyone else noticed that when you say you have something to share or that you have worked on a new seq there is a long line of people asking for it but then when you share it very few ever say thanks after they get it and also that most of the ones asking for the shared things never seem to have anything to share in return, and that most of them are the same ones over and over all the time? Just seems to be something I noticed.. Many of us have spent a lot of hours and time doing things that we don't mind sharing and most of the time no all but more people do not ever say thanks for sharing it or say ow they liked or didn't like it or offer any constructive criticism or there version of the same thing after tweaking it??.. Even a newbie like I am would like to receive a little pat on the back once in a while.. And I am sure there are a lot that have shared things here that does a much better job then I do have not been told thanks for a lot of their hard and time consuming work to. Many times in different places... I say thank you for the help that all the old timers and to all who have helped me in the past... and that still help me pout when I am having a problem with something.. and to all the ones who have shared their work with me. There are some people ready to jump in and criticize someone for asking about something that was answered three or four of even 5 years ago instead of offering a good explanation or telling them where it was answered in the past... Not Everyone uses the same terminology when searching for something and there are some who always seems to be ready to say.... search harder... it was answered way back in 2010 if you look for it....
  31. k6ccc

    outdoor speakers

    That's what I do. However having worked as a broadcast engineer, I DO know how to do it right and make it work despite some very long cable runs. Before you even read the novel I'm about to write, I will repeat an offer I have made in the past. If you need assistance in audio distribution (for example, long cable runs or distribution to multiple distant locations), my background may be able to help to do it right. Feel free to contact me. Admittedly my setup is more complex than most other people have any need to use, but it works well for me. In my case, my show computer has been in the very back of my house. As part of my front yard landscaping project, I installed four speakers in the front yard, and two 75 watt per channel amplifiers in a closet that drives them. There is a conduit path from the show computer to the amplifiers, but it's about 100 feet long. Additionally, there is a conduit path from the show computer to the brick column in the front yard where the FM transmitter is located, but it's a little over 150 feet. If I were to simply connect a Y splitter on the output of the show computer and long cables to the amplifiers and transmitter, there is a HIGH probability that there would be noise and /or hum introduced into one or more likely both. Now I'm going to explain how to do it right. Then I will add a little about the rest of my audio distribution - and how I added yet another complication this year. The big issue with long cables is that most consumer audio devices use un-balanced audio inputs and outputs. That means that the audio signal is carried on a single wire that is referenced to whatever ground that the equipment has. The cable used is normally a shielded co-axial cable with the audio signal on the center conductor and the ground on the shield. This works OK for short distances, and in particular when all the attached equipment is using the same power system. If the two pieces of equipment either don't really have a real ground connection (most consumer audio equipment these days doesn't), or have a different ground, there can be substantial amounts of noise introduced because of differences in ground. The solution to this is to use a balanced audio line rather than an un-balanced distribution. In an balanced input or output, the audio signal is sent over two wires that are not referenced to ground, but rather a differential to each other. The cable normally used is two twisted wires inside a shield. The shield is normally grounded at only one end of the cable. Fortunately it is easy to convert the audio signal from an un-balanced signal to a balanced signal. The normal way to do this is by connecting the un-balanced signal to one side of an isolation transformer, and there is now a balanced signal on the other side of the transformer. Assuming that both your show computer and your FM transmitter have unbalanced inputs and outputs, you would use an isolation transformer at each end of the circuit. Note that the description I have given is for a single circuit. If you are sending a stereo signal (and most of use are using stereo), you need a separate isolation transformer at each end of the circuit, and separate cable for each channel. If you are splitting the output of your show computer to go to both a FM transmitter and also amplifiers for speakers, you could use a Y type splitter cable to create two outputs from your computer, and run one output from the splitter to the FM transmitter and the the other output to the amplifiers. If either of the cable runs is long, use the un-balanced to balanced transformer process described above for the long cable. In my case I'm not using a Y splitter cable. I have the output from the show computer (un-balanced) run through isolation transformers to two channel inputs of a sound mixer (balanced). This is despite the fact that the computer and mixer have been less than two feet apart. The mixer has a main output which is cabled to the FM transmitter, and an Aux output which is cabled to the amplifiers. The main output from the mixer is a true balanced output, so I don't need to use isolation transformers at the mixer end of those cables, however my FM transmitter has un-balanced inputs, so there are isolation transformers before the inputs to the transmitter. BTW, to give an idea how well using a balanced signal works, for the first year that I used an FM transmitter, I used a piece of unshielded Cat-5 cable for the 160 foot run, and it worked fine. I don't recommend doing that, but I really did not have the budget to buy the right cable at the time, and I had boxes of Cat-5 in stock. The Aux output from my mixer is semi-balanced output so I am using isolation transformers at both ends of the cables to the amplifiers. This year I complicated it a bit by moving the show computer out into a newly constructed data cabinet in my garage. Now I will have about 60 feet of cable from the computer to sound mixer. Of course that will have isolation transformers at the computer. One more note. The conduit paths that I'm using for these long runs, are also used for several other types of signal including, computer LAN, LOR networking, another low speed data used for some environmental monitors, telephone, and low current 12 volt power. All of these would likely bother an un-balanced signal, but have no effect on a balanced signal.
  32. The worst part about it is that the need to grow appears in two ways: - You buy more lights, find a way to use them, so you need more controllers. - You buy an extra controller, then you realize that you could USE those channels and then you need to buy more lights. -Scott
  33. I wanted to share our new props from our 2015 show. We did Snoopy and The Red Barron and in parts of that song "town" bells go off. My wife asked while watching my visualizer as I was programming it if I could make bells since I make all of our display elements. I don't know how to weld so I made them out of 1/2 PVC. I used a heat gun to soften them and borrowed a spring tool my electrician brother in law has to bend without kinks. I was looking for something to use as a template to get the curve I wanted when I noticed my hand truck. In the first picture you see it is attached to the hand truck with zip ties as I bent it around. I then flared it out, let cool, then flared down deciding on a cut point then used elbows to form the bottom and t-fittings to allow for the bell dinger/dong to be glued in place. I then painted them (4) black and used CDI's gold/yellow M6 50 count to string them. I obviously had extra so I just used black out caps. I had these in a real tree positioned as if they were ringing and tried not to be exactly straight up and down. Please feel free to copy my idea and I hope you like them. If you want to see them in action, I have the video on our website: www.saunderschristmaslights.com Later, Al
  34. I have this simple philosophy to the haters..."I don't care, I do what I like."
  35. I think it's because their music is exciting and offers a great opportunity for dynamic sequencing, regardless of channel count. Talk about sheep mentality ... from the perspective of someone on the musical fringes of this hobby, doesn't sheep mentality perfectly describe all the people who use the same tired old Christmas songs that others have used for decades?
  36. Off topic but funny story: I love to cook. If you have run into me at Expo, it shows For the last year I have been studying Japanese Cuisine - yes there is more than just Sushi! I found a great little Japanese Grocery store in town - it's about the 1/2 the size of a gas station convenience store. It's jam packed with awesome ingredients and run by an older Japanese woman who is whip-smart but English is not her first language. My Obasan! The other day I'm in there and I drop close to $100 on stuff. I make a comment about how she's making me go broke with all these new things to try. She gives me the thumbs up and says 'Steak tonight!'
  37. Here is a video of the last song each night https://vimeo.com/113360891
  38. Go to Its Me Bob-O Software downloads http://itsmebob.com/SD.html Get the clipboard flipper.
  39. To add to what George said, just click anywhere on the grid and it will make it the active pane on your desktop. Then use the space bar. I don't think I would want to bash the software provider in my second post though, especially before trying to get an answer for your question. Just a thought.
  40. This is my first year. Here are a few things that might help a Newbie starting next year. Two of the overwhelming topics below are planning and time. You cannot do enough of one and you will need more of the other. I know now why I saw so many post from veterans mentioning starting their setups in October and early November. If the info below helps one next year newbie, then it will be worth the time it took to recollect and type it. If you have experiences please share them... Merry Christmas to all! zeighty Some background: 1 1602w Controller 1 CTB16PC Controller FM Transmitter - Fail Safe - FS-CZH-05B (works great by the way) USB485 adapter S3 ver 3.9 (upgrade after Christmas show) LED lights - a few M6 mostly C6 Lights Don't assume those that you already own will work. Test all of your strings before hanging. Buy quality LED fully rectified strings - the difference is very significant (brighter, dimmable, etc). Mine came from Holiday Size decision: I thought my dozen or so M6 were going to be significantly different from C6. Hard to see the difference in my show from 40 feet away. i Prefer C6 (7 & 9) over M6 When connecting 2 shorter strings, be sure to overlap the gap created by the lead in and out wire; use wire ties When doing your setup and unpacking lights from bags, do not accidentally throw away a 100 White light string Controllers / Physical layout Design your physical layout early. Your logical layout you had to do to sequence properly, but your physical layout is very different. I over simplified mine in my head. Have a plan and only change it if he is absolutely necessary. I could have saved a lot of time had I decided to mount my controllers on the side of my house before setup day. Controller placement is important in many aspects. Safety, security and convenience. Had I completed #2 I would not have to add extension cords to most every single channel I am running, This was a "kill joy" moment for me. Almost every cable was 7-8 feet short. Over $70 in 15' extension cords required to fix this problem. This should be at the top of this post. PLAN! PLAN! & PLAN! Then just when you think you have it... review and revise your PLAN again and again, before setup date gets here. Setup day and Supplies Wire and vampire taps - If you plan as noted, you may be able to purchase exactly what you need. There is a little know fact that you will not know exactly what you need until you need it. I thought for 32 channels 500 feet of SPT 1 and 25 vampire taps would be enough. Now that I have used around 850 feet of wire and had to sacrifice some old cords to get plugs and outlet ends. In addition to buying enough, by high quality vampire taps. Make sure you are buy the right ones for your wire. SPT1 taps will not work with SPT2 cable. The insulation is too thick. Time - Hopefully you budgeted your time better than I did. It took me over 6 hours to wire my lights. That's not hanging them. Just running the power cables. I only have 32 channels (and 4 channels are not being used). Time - If you planned properly (which by now you know that I did not), you will have your audio gear not only available, configured and ready, but also exactly where it will be for the season. On the floor, perhaps a table or desk? Time - what ever time you budget to do what needs to be done, double it. If you are planning to be out of town for thanksgiving, be sure to plan for your absence. Nothing like thinking about your schedule and when you can get everything setup while you should be enjoying your time with family and friends. Tools - Be sure you have the necessary tools available including those to cut your wire and wire ties. Neatness - Be sure to remove the labels on your light strings. nothing like the light from across your yard reflecting off the white or silver tags on the "dark side". May not bother you, but to me it just looks unprofessional to leave them.
  41. Like he said, SHE SAID YES! As promised, here is the rough footage of the lights! The girl I had on camera missed the first section of the song and the video I played before the lights started, but I'm working on taking all the raw footage and making a full proposal video. It was just really dark and we had a little rain. Even if my video of the proposal didn't turn out exactly how I wanted, the lights and the proposal went off without any problems! But here is the link for most of what I was able to do with the equipment dgrant allowed me to use. I can't thank him enough for all his help!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCctLw41eZA&feature=youtu.be
  42. http://youtu.be/AfYi-QuJ5G4 I seen this on Facebook and had to put it here. I think it is awesome. 2 thumbs up to the Little Creek Vol. Fire Department.
  43. I'm working on that very same project for marching bands. Wireless DMX to RGB dumb strips, powered by R/C batteries. Initial testing looks like a minimum 250 foot range. LOR S3 software to control them. Three songs will be recorded and programmed (hopefully they stay on beat). Each person will have three of their own DMX channels, except for the drum line, who get sound activated units, triggered by DMX relays to switch colors on an internal 10w RGB chip. Band directors have software to design patterns for the performers placements; I just watch that for patterns to program to. Pit instruments (marimbas, xylophones,etc) will have AC powered units, since they never move from the 50 yard line area. Already designed and will be testing after the holiday season. Looks like $85 per person.
  44. Hello all, This is a video of the RGB highlights from my display last Christmas. Because there aren’t too many RGB videos out there (at least that I could find), I thought I would consolidate a bunch of my different RGB house effects into one video. Didn’t spend much time editing so it’s pretty choppy, but shows a lot of effects. Among the 17 songs I did this year were a couple 8 or so minute music collages with 15 second snippets of various songs. I thought this worked out really well in that I could demo a lot of different effects by switching effects every 15 seconds. It gave a lot of flexibility to try different things. The house has 900 pixels with C9 covers using LOR S3 with E1.31. In the sequence editor, the 900 pixels were copied into different groups which were then rearranged from left to right, top to bottom, inside to outside, radar screen, rainbow, by segment and several chases. After all this work, the sequencing went pretty easily. Bottom line: RGB is awesome and I hope this gives others a few ideas to try. Enjoy. Kent
  45. You might be the most honest person on earth. But in the past year or two we have seen someone who begged that someone loan a controller or two. There was a shortage that year. Well lets just say that there was a problem. Maybe someone will come to your resue. In my opinion, I am going to tell you this and this also takes in account the down turn in the job markets. Take this year and get the software, even if it is just the demo. Save your pennys and get the controller next year. I sure would not loan or rent out one of my controllers without at least the rent fee and 100% the cost of the controller as colateral. And $75 is about 50 bucks less than the cost of a controller
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