Newbie Sequence Editor/RGB tools question

[JD123]

Ok, I apologize in advance for this novice question.  I'm starting to come up to speed with CC Bulbs & the V3 Sequencer.  I've looked at tutorials and am now venturing out on my own.  I'm working almost exclusively with RGB/CCB's. I'm trying to create sequences and one of the most basic things I want to do is to do is to turn a bulb or bulbs a specific color.  That sounds simple, and I'd think there was a tool to do that.  Unfortunately, the only tool I see is the Color Fade tool.  That will do it (by setting both ends of the fade to the same color), but it seems like I'm missing something.  Is there a way to simply turn the RGB bulb or bulbs a single color?  Ideally, I'd like to select a color tool and set the color for the selected RGB bulb(s) to my selected color. The same is true with the Color Fill tool. I just want to fill with a particular color.  It seems to want to always perform a fade. 

 

Also - There are many instances that I would like to perform a color fill with a single color bounded by other colors.  For example, I would like to fill an area between a red sequence and a green sequence.  The fill tool requires that the fill area be bounded by an area where the lights are off.  This makes things especially difficult when doing a chase.  For example, creating a chase where red would push green.

 

Thanks in advance for your advice!

Joe

 

[k6ccc]

There are a couple more things you can do for turning a light on a certain color.  If you click the lithe RGB color box on the left of the RGB channel set, it will split the RGB into individual channels.  Then you can use the fade up and down or on or off controls for that particular color.  For example if you only want the red, you could select only the red channel and either fade or turn it on or off.  That gets the three primary colors.  For the secondary colors, select two of the individual colors (for example Red and Blue to get purple).  Of course if you want white, either select all three colors, or leave the RGB channel set together and turn it on or off, or fade it.  For most any other color, that is what the color fade tool is all about.  It's actually very easy to use.

 

As for your question about the color fill, I must not be understanding your question, because it does not work they way I'm understanding your statement.  The color fill works just fine with two different colors and filling the area in between.

[saxon]

Unfortunately, the only tool I see is the Color Fade tool.  That will do it (by setting both ends of the fade to the same color), but it seems like I'm missing something.

 

Nope your not missing it. That's the way to do it; select a color for one side and copy it to the next side for a solid color. Or like Jim said.

 

Im with Jim, I am not really understanding your next question......I will take a stab and ask if you are trying to do a chase on top of another color? Or maybe you are referring to the foreground option..??

[JD123]

Thanks for the replies. It looks like I'm using the tools that I should.  I had expected that there would be a specific tool to set a set cell color in the sequence, instead of setting a fade tool to fade from the desired color to the same color.  That adds a second step that really adds up when you are doing a large sequence. 

 

Here (hopefully), is a better explanation of my second issue:

1) Setup a new device (CCR or CCB)

2) On the first bulb, set the first cell on the timeline to be red

3) To the right on the timeline - say 3 seconds to the right, create another cell for the same bulb that is blue

4) That would turn the first bulb red, then off for a few seconds, then blue, then off

6) What I would like to do is fill red from the red cell to the blue cell, so select the fill tool and click in the off area between the red and blue cells

7) The fill tool assumes I want a color fade and creates a color transition between the two colors - that's not what I'm looking for - I want red (or a specific color) filled from red to blue

8) I can accomplish this by doing a color fade from red to red, and manually dragging from the left red cell to the right blue cell. No problem if this is a single bulb, but ....

 

1) If I instead, create a chase out of the first bulb, to the last

2) Then turn the bulb blue as described in step 3 above and create a chase for this bulb as well

3) I want to create an effect where off is "pushed" by red, and red is "pushed" by blue

4) I can't fill or I get a color transition

5) I can do a Fade from red to red, but I must apply it manually to 100 rows!

5a) Even if I do a manual fill, I get "off" states in areas of the timeline that don't fall on even time boundaries.

 

Hopefully that will provide a little better explanation. It's tough to describe, but if you try the steps above hopefully you will see what I'm talking about.  Essentially, I'm going for an effect where one color "pushes" another off of the string.  I have been able to do this, but it has been a huge ordeal!  I'm thinking there must be a better way to do it.

 

Thanks,

Joe

[saxon]

Hey Joe

 

I am not the best person to help you with SE effects since I do most all my effects with Superstar. But I can tell you that yes, using fill between 2 different colors will transition them. If what you described is actually what you are doing, why not make your red all the way to your blue cell to begin with? instead of a red/space/blue then filling the space with red?

 

Filling an area between 2 different colors without a transition would be to select the area and use color fade. - as far as I know anyway.

 

I am not sure I understand the effect your going for with "push". I will assume you mean chase 2 colors back to back? if so, I would set up the one RGB channel (bulb) the way you what it and chase the whole thing. Sorry if this is not what your after.

[k6ccc]

If I understand what you are trying to do, it took me about 30 seconds to do this using the Sequence Editor.  Like Saxon, I normally do most of my sequencing in Superstar, but wanted to take this as a challenge.

 

First let me make sure I know what you want to accomplish.  At the beginning of the sequence, all 50 bulbs are dark.  Then the first pixel turns red for 3 seconds and then turns blue.  Either the bulbs stay blue or go dark after a few seconds.  Each 0.1 seconds, the next successive pixel does the same thing.

 

Here is what I did:

Create a new sequence with one pixel (which we wont use).  BTW, I did this with 0.1 second timings.  Then insert device below that one - and the device is a CCR.  On the first pixel of the CCR, expand the RGB and select the time from 1 - 4 seconds on the Red line.  Press n to turn that on.  Then select the blue line from 4 to 7 seconds and press n.  Collapse the RGB for the first pixel and you should have the pattern you wanted for the first pixel.  Now select the first red time element on the first pixel (should be at 1.00 seconds).  Now move to the 11.8 to 11.9 second timing on the 50th pixel, hold the shift key and click that box.  That should have everything from 1.0 to 12.9 seconds and from row 1 to 50 selected.  Type h to create a chase.  If you want Dark > Red > Blue > Dark, you are done.  If you want the blue to remain until all of the pixels are blue, there is one more step.  Select that last blue time element and copy it.  Now Right click the 11.9 to 12.0 timing on the first pixel, and select past multiple.  In the pop-up box, select 50 for the number of time to past vertically.  That should now give your chase and then all 50 pixels blue in the 11.9 - 12.0 timing.  Now select the 11.8 - 11.9 second timing on the first pixel, and then shift click on the 11.8 - 11.9 second timing for the 49th pixel (the last pixel where that timing will be black.  Click f to fill and all 50 pixels will come do the dark > Red > Blue chase and remain blue.

 

Did this all make sense?

 

I did this example using the full on commands (n) since you wanted primary colors.  I could have also use the color fill tool to create the Red and Blue in the first pixel if I wanted other than primary or secondary colors.

 

This took FAR longer to type then it did to do...