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 Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2012 01:25 pm
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Im certain Dan has seen this kind of stuff coming.  The CCR is a pixel solution that can be used and programmed same as any other pixel.  As well you can add on or shorten the total strip.  LOR has the DC boards for dumb strips.

As for the DMX Im certain its not a step he wants to take in terms of 1.31 because this opens the door wide open to every cheap DMX dimmer and driver on the market.  Is this a good thing for LOR?  No as if you can buy an A/C dimmer for half the price most people will.  I would not only becuase the LOR kit has sold me on the value of what it is to what I can expect if something ever did go wrong, LOR stands tall behind thier product. 

As for Pixels such as the insane displays that are being created, once again cost will go the side of DMX, but when you get into a jam the CCR will have someone to call or email that will help you fix or repair the issue at hand.  They will both output similar effects, they both program nearly identical minus macros for the CCR, and they both have the ability to make pixel walls and effects. 

Im personally using both, LOR A/C controllers for the LED 120v lights, Rope Light, and Floods.  DC will be LOR DC controllers as well.  The Pixels will be DMX or E681 type boards.  I appreciate Dan seeing that if he doesnt have DMX or 1.31 support he is overshadowed but LSP or Vixen, while he gives up the hardware side of it allowing those protocols he still keeps the software end of things.  Ive tried both LSP and Vixen and still in terms of layout and support Im a LOR believer.



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 Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2012 01:39 pm
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I agree William. In my opinion, this will only up more windows for LOR. A big drawback for many is the software is not compatible for "other" products.
The open DMXas well as E1.31 support will allow many who have not tried S3, to jump on board and see how great it really is.



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 Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2012 06:16 pm
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The big difference here is fact verses opinion and conjecture. LOR claims it's corporate customers are it's sole business objective. That is a fact. That their business is being shadowed by others is simply opinion and conjecture. In the past other companies have used some form of tactic to gain access to the LOR protocol to make their product compatable with LOR software. Case in point, D'Light Lighting controllers. In addition, Vixen has a plug-in to control LOR hardware. Neither of these entities were asked to stop by LOR. Because they had little effect on LORs business objective. This is straight from Dan's mouth at the mini plus event held in my backyard. If you look at the Sandevices website, they pay homage to LOR saying it is a "notable exception" to the Lighting control software since it does not yet control E1.31. It further states that it is "a very popular product" That Sandevices created the ELO project is a testament to their desire to bend to the Hobbyist Lighting Community. That is their business objective. That LOR includes such things as native DMX and all the other improvements of S3, with a system intended primarily for corporate customers is an indication that their business is strong and they are throwing us a bone. I don't think this changes anything for LOR. For us, it's a way to bridge the gap to native E1.31. I'm guessing it's giving the developers a little rest from all the panty whining from guys like me about the protocol. I could go on and on but you either understand the history from experiencing it, or you place your own knowledge and values on another man's business. Now you know, take it or leave it.

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 Posted: Tuesday February 14th, 2012 06:19 pm
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I think thats funny because I have always loved the software untill I got THOSE things. (and I did want those things) Guess thats why the saying goes "Be carefull what you ask for..."

Sequencing for controllers was fun. Sequencing for a string of RGB pixels made my head hurt. I hope the software embraces pixels, and gets easier to sequence higher channel counts.



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