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| Posted: Saturday October 15th, 2011 08:34 pm |
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bob One of your administrators 
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In version 3.1, the following DMX adapters are officially supported for native DMX devices: With "Raw DMX" protocol ENTTEC Open DMX USB LOR USB485 LOR USB485B LOR USB485-ISO With "ENTTEC DMX USB Pro" protocol ENTTEC DMX USB Pro With "Lynx" protocol Lynx It is possible that other types of USB adapters may work, but they may not, and if they do you may have to experiment to find the appropriate protocol to use.
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| Posted: Sunday October 16th, 2011 01:58 am |
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cenote Member 
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Is there any "mechanical" difference between the Enttec open and the LOR USB485, other than we are supporting LOR when we buy there's? For the record, I did buy the LOR's 
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| Posted: Sunday October 16th, 2011 02:07 am |
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bob One of your administrators
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Yes, there's a very important difference: ENTTEC Open DMX USB adapters have physical DMX output jacks. LOR USB485 adapters do not. The LOR USB485 adapter can be used to send either LOR protocol or DMX protocol to an LOR controller, over the regular physical CAT5 cable that you always use to connect to an LOR controller. It cannot be used to send DMX protocol to a DMX device that takes a DMX input cable.
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| Posted: Sunday October 16th, 2011 02:09 am |
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bob One of your administrators
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I have updated the first post in the thread to explicitly say that the USB485 doesn't have a DMX output jack. Edit: And now I have, um, unupdated it. It seems like many adapters used as DMX adapters don't, which is different than I had originally imagined.
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| Posted: Sunday October 16th, 2011 10:16 pm |
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Given how LOR 3.0 currently handles DMX output. Is there any reason to purchase an Enttec device if I already have and extra USB485B device for DMX output? Granted I understand that a special cat5 cable would need to be built that would align the correct output +,-,gnd to the input +,- and gnd on the input devices. I also understand that changes to the LOR software may change this decision.
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| Posted: Sunday October 16th, 2011 11:47 pm |
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Randy Member 
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Bob, Did we ever get clarification to my earlier question? I couldn't get my Enttec Open DMX USB controller to work within the sequence editor. Someone told me that it would only work within shows and not using the Sequence editor. Frankly, that is a bit of a show-stopper for me, as I use Sequence Editor a lot to test things out and don't want to use a device that only will respond during Showtime... If it does only work in the Show environment, are there are plans to rectify that? Thanks, Randy
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| Posted: Monday October 17th, 2011 12:13 am |
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jeffl Member
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I tried a USB485B and I couldn't get it to work. Are the USB485 the same as a USB485B for this purpose?
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| Posted: Monday October 17th, 2011 12:26 am |
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jeffl Member
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Randy, I only have a Lynx DMX dongle setup as an Enttec Pro in the network configuration to test and I am able to send commands from the Sequence Editor via the start button with Control Lights enabled. Now don't try this particular DMX adapter as it doesn't work properly and it's not supported but I could at least test this. I have no idea what the real answer is but thought I would post my test.
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| Posted: Monday October 17th, 2011 12:30 am |
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bob One of your administrators
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jeffl wrote: Given how LOR 3.0 currently handles DMX output. Is there any reason to purchase an Enttec device if I already have and extra USB485B device for DMX output? I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to that. The only DMX devices we've tested using the LOR adapter were LOR controllers, not DMX devices with real DMX connectors.
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| Posted: Monday October 17th, 2011 12:32 am |
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bob One of your administrators
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Randy wrote: Bob, No, that's not correct. It will work with the Show Player or the Sequence Editor. It is required that the LOR Control Panel be running; perhaps this led to some confusion that maybe it only works with the Show Player. Regarding being unable to get it working, I'm sorry, I have no idea whether I saw your post or not. If you PM me a link, I'll take a look at it.
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| Posted: Monday October 17th, 2011 12:35 am |
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bob One of your administrators
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jeffl wrote: I tried a USB485B and I couldn't get it to work. Are the USB485 the same as a USB485B for this purpose? Sorry, I don't know much about the hardware. Looks like at least some of the things on my desk, including ones that I know I successfully used with DMX, are marked "USB485". I don't see any that are marked "USB485B", although I might have one buried behind a mass of cables or something. I'll try to get confirmation from Dan one way or the other.
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| Posted: Monday October 17th, 2011 12:59 am |
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bob One of your administrators
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bob wrote: jeffl wrote:I tried a USB485B and I couldn't get it to work. Are the USB485 the same as a USB485B for this purpose? OK, Dan says that a USB485B should work the same as a USB485 (with respect to this), but that it has not been tested. He furthermore says that he will test with one when he gets a chance.
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| Posted: Monday October 17th, 2011 09:52 am |
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Jeff Millard Member 
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Randy, Go back to the thread and read my first response to your question. I think the answer to your riddle about getting it to work is in there. You need to have the contol panel running, and you need to make sure that the control lights is staying on in the sequence editor. If you don't have an active LOR adapter connected and you select control lights then try to play the SE, when you check again the control lights will be deselected. So if you're trying to control dmx with only your ENTTEC adapter connected it's not going to work for you. That was discovered by another beta tester when we were trying to figure out the problem with the visualizer strobes problem. It won't control a USB dio device either, unless the USB 485 is connected. Jeff
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| Posted: Monday October 17th, 2011 12:58 pm |
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Randy Member
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Great, thanks for the info... Randy
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| Posted: Monday October 17th, 2011 10:08 pm |
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jeffl Member
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bob wrote:
I tested one channel and the USB485B does work. The problem as some have stated is a LOR network adapter needs to be setup first for it to work. Once I setup both adapters it worked. How well I don't know as I only had one channel (channel 1) hooked up.
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| Posted: Tuesday October 18th, 2011 02:49 am |
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Jeff, did you make up a cat5 to dmx cable to run the usb485b? Bret
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| Posted: Tuesday October 18th, 2011 02:52 am |
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bretk Member
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bob wrote:Yes, there's a very important difference: Bob, can it send dmx protocol to a dmx device with a cat 5 cable like a set of coro megaballs? Bret
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| Posted: Tuesday October 18th, 2011 04:19 am |
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jeffl Member
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bretk wrote: Jeff, did you make up a cat5 to dmx cable to run the usb485b? Yes I made my own using the page listed here for the pinouts. I only used the two pins + and - . Cut a cat5 cable and soldered the two wires needed to cross the wires as needed. Added shrink tubing, mark the ends, and it' done. The only words of wisdom is watch the pins as the wire colors are not always the same on cat5 cables. Hopefully if I did it wrong somebody can correct me but it does work. http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=Light-O-Rama_Controllers I also forgot to mention that the special cable is to go from a USB485B to a Lynx Express DMX controller. These devices both have different specs for DMX. If you want to connect say a CTB16PC controller up to the USB485B via DMX a standard cat5 will do (no modification necessary). Last edited on Tuesday October 18th, 2011 04:24 am by jeffl ____________________ You know you're addicted when the cost of everything you purchase is compared to a string of lights! Almost 600 Channels for 2011. http://www.ChristmasInBrandon.com |
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| Posted: Tuesday October 18th, 2011 04:29 am |
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jeffl Member
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Bret, Are these the Coro Balls? If so, the pinouts are listed in this PDF. http://www.holidaycoro.com/docs/dmxprogrammer.pdf
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| Posted: Tuesday October 18th, 2011 02:09 pm |
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hbomb341 Member 
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If you moving from DMX to LOR or vs versa - this is the best doc to keep yourself streight on the wiring. http://www.diylightanimation.com/wiki/index.php?title=General_Information_on_Dongle_Connections Harrison
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| Posted: Tuesday October 18th, 2011 02:11 pm |
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hbomb341 Member
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jeffl wrote: Bret, There is 1 catch here - how you wired them - but all of David's recommendation in his directions is wired like the Lynx. Harrison Last edited on Tuesday October 18th, 2011 02:12 pm by hbomb341 ____________________ Harrison Ward http://www.flowermoundchristmas.com/ |
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| Posted: Tuesday October 18th, 2011 02:43 pm |
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jeffl Member
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This is a great set of diagrams that for some reason I could not find when I was looking. The key with all of them is pin position and not always color.
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| Posted: Tuesday October 18th, 2011 03:35 pm |
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bob One of your administrators
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bretk wrote: bob wrote: I'm sorry, I don't know much about hardware, and I don't know what a coro megaball is. All I personally can really say is that you can send DMX protocol to at least some LOR controllers using an LOR USB485, with the same cables you would use to send LOR protocol to that same controller over that same adapter.
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| Posted: Tuesday October 18th, 2011 09:35 pm |
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bretk Member
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Yep that's the ones! I think they are going to be a neat addition, but first time I have ventured into the dmx universe, so. Unsure how to actually connect my coroballs to the daisy chained lor 16pc
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| Posted: Wednesday October 19th, 2011 04:44 pm |
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Dale Member 
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let me see if I got this I can use a Enttec dmx box to control my dmx stuff I got that part but what about some thing like this, http://www.productionadvantageonline.com/Control-Adapters-Terminators/XLRJ45-5M.aspx can I use the rj45 coming out of my last controller plug it in the XLR dongel and go in to my first dmx light? then from that to my next dmx light and so on? Or do I have to put the Enttec open first in line and then send dmx out to all the LOR boxs and also to my DMX lights. Still just a little confused in the order and/or configurations I can use, has any one made a top-o-graphical map of how to use the dmx stuff? I am really specifacly looking at using LOR and DIY Renard boards togther can I use the XLR dongel out of last LOR then XLR then into my first Renard then to ren 2 ren3 ren4 ..ren10. hope this makes sense to some one
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